djsurfs Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Has anyone seen Finquel (MS-222) in NZ? Or know of a good equivalent? http://www.argent-labs.com/argentwebsite/ms-222.htm "FINQUEL FINQUEL is intended for the temporary immobilization of fish, amphibians, and other aquatic, cold-blooded animals. It has long been recognized as a valuable tool for the proper handling of these animals during manual spawning (fish stripping), weighing, measuring, marking, surgical operations, transport, photography, and research." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 You can use clove oil if you can find it. http://www.wetwebmedia.com/FWSubWebIndex/smpufferdentistry.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMAZONIAN Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Hi All You can also use "QUINALDINE' if you can find it.. We used it years back to catch marine fish in the wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted November 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Thanks yes, I already have clove oil. Easily found at health shops. It does the job, but I was hoping to find something even better alternative as I think it causes a bit of stress... Have you ever tested it on yourself? LOL I did! it kinda burns like chilis, before the numbing effect takes on! OK, my lips were maybe already a little chapped/sunburnt, but holy *%$! it burned! I have no desire to catch fish, but will have to research the 'QUINALDINE'... Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carznkats Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Someone was advertising this product awile ago aqui-s http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/introd ... 12451.html http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/how-do ... 12452.html Seemed relatively expensive but probably better than clove oil.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMAZONIAN Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi All Aqui-S (excuse the spelling) is what they use to "KILL" fish:................... Remember the ZEBRA DANIO DEBARCLE. They used it to destroy them. Quinaldine is a tranquilizer and is sprayed at the fish in the sea and they "Just Stop" on the spot. you can then hold out your hand and grab them. It lasts for about two / three hours and doesn't affect the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 used the same as amazonian, remember it as being a treatment for malaria i think, correct me if i'm wrong also used vodka when quinaldine wasn't available, took a little longer to work though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Quinine is malaria treatment (good for white spot and velvet as well). Don't know if quinaldine is the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMAZONIAN Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi All Alan is correct. :roll: Quinine is a good drug: I recommend you to use it in it's "SULPHATE" form as opposed to "HYDROCHLORIDE" as it reacts faster and is more stable and user friendly when it comes to dosage. "QUINALDINE" is an anaesthetic and is not aligned to "QUININE" and is akin to Zylocaine and Lignocaine in it's actions except it slows the response to movement. It is a muscle relaxant.. I would venture to say it is about the same as "DIAZEPAN" from memory. (And thats pretty Bad these days) :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMAZONIAN Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Hi Again. This may be of interest to you all. http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/veterina ... 002-19.pdf The AMAZONIAN KNOWS HEAPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Hi All Aqui-S (excuse the spelling) is what they use to "KILL" fish:................... Remember the ZEBRA DANIO DEBARCLE. They used it to destroy them. Only if a high dose is used, it was developed as a anaesthetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle.g Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 AMAZONIAN wrote: Hi All Aqui-S (excuse the spelling) is what they use to "KILL" fish:................... Remember the ZEBRA DANIO DEBARCLE. They used it to destroy them. Only if a high dose is used, it was developed as a anaesthetic. Yes, Aqui-S is used in NZ as an anaesthetic. For example, it is used by people studying fish physiology. It puts the fish to sleep so they are easier to handle, and the fish then fully recover. The people using must be confident that it doesn't effect the health of the fish, or they couldn't use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiri Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 The best bet for reliable, easy to use, and safe sedative for marine tanks is AQ10. It's available from Aqui-S, just call 04 587 0380. Be careful using unregistered products; Finquel is the only other choice really. If you have no experience with Quinaldine it'd be best to avoid it, as it takes some practice to get the right dose for small volumes of water. Most importantly, sedatives have different effects on different species, and don't take comfort from tests done on 8g Sea Bass fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurfs Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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