Dixon1990 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Can you have 80L ponds with 3-4 comets without filtration. just plants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 im sure you need movement in the water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 really? Im sure ive seen ponds with a few goldfish and heaps of oxy weed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 you might be right but i thought that the water would go stagnant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 i might see if it can go out side my window and have a small pond pump carble through a gap ion the window with a lock just to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jn Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I have a 200L half barrel (bigger than the usual wine barrel halves) I have heaps of plants and a couple of fish. No filter. The nitrates go down to zero (and I had some cyanobacteria I think but not too bad) but since I don't have a filter I do regular water changes during the summer. Since it doesn't get aerated by a filter, I have it in a shady spot so it doesn't get too hot so the oxygen levels don't drop too low. I wouldn't have more than 3 in only 80L though without a filter. I only had 4 in my 200L, they like some room to swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 dixon...you poor, ah person. You really really have a bad case of MTS, new tanks, new ponds :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I have had large, medium and small ponds with goldfish wcmm, livebearers and killies, with and without plant (not all in the same pond). It works very well with no filters or pumps. The oxygen level will improve with good surface area. Down here, in the real world, it pays to have an area of reasonable depth that wont freeze in the winter. I have a friend with wcmm I gave him to keep down the mossies that has 2 x half barrels and a smaller pond very heavily planted with lillies (leaves all over the surface) and the white clouds are happy and breeding like mad at the moment. Ignore the pet shops, they just want to sell you stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 I agree with what alanmin has said (and others). You don't need that stuff. I would not put 4 comets in 80L though. Not big enough. Comets grow big and like lots of swimming room as they are fast. Get veil or fantails, or something that is slower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 The fancy goldfish are not usually as hardy as comets and may pack a sad down hear in the winter. Comets, but less of might be the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 White clouds might be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted November 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Would leopardfish be alright? I have about 20-30 fry and 3 adults. I could put some of the young in when they get to 2cm if they would be alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 The trouble with leopardfish and white clouds is they are so damn hard to see in a pond! :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted November 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 i might try have 2 80L fishbins. 1 with minnows or barbs and 1 with leopard fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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