Jalil30 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My red bellied pacu has noticable ich. I have since removed him from my 75 gallon tank to a smaller 20 gallon tank.. he is alone.. I have raised the temp gradually and added salt.. 1st 1 tablespoon per 5 gallons today I increased it another 1tablespoon per 5 gallons. I am using sea salt. I did however go to the pet store and purchase Wardleys ick out sensative. I am not sure how I should treat the tank he came out of , which houses 2 Oscars, a clown knife a small red devil and pleco. i also have 4 other tanks that i have been using the same nets and siphon in... what should I do to maintain the health of the other fish... Should I even use these drops? I am hearing horror stories... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 White Spot or 'Ich' is a protozoan parasite that attaches itself to fish. It is present in water everywhere, and will be in almost all freshwater tanks. The parasite goes through several stages over about 10-15 days (temperature dependant), including a free-swimming stage that can rapidly infect other fish. What it looks like: The visible stage of Whitespot looks like grains of salt stuck to the outside of the fish. It can appear anywhere on the fish but often attaches to fins and gill plates. What causes it: White Spot is invariably caused by poor water conditions in combination with stress - it is a sign the the fish's immune system is failing, allowing the parasite to take hold. As certain stages of the parasite cannot live in water above 28 degrees, it should be less of a problem in a Discus tank as the water should be already be that warm. What to do: As it is often caused by poor water, test the aquarium water to determine if filters etc are operating correctly. Do a large waterchange. Raise the temperature to 30 degrees, but make sure that there is adequate water motion to maintain good oxygen levels in the water (as the temperature of water rises, it holds less and less oxygen) - often you will need to add an airstone. There are several White Spot remedies available, most of which are organo-toxins that work by killing the free-swimming stage of the parasite. As Whitespot eggs can hatch out over a long period of time, most treatments take at least a week in order to break the lifecycle of the parasite - follow the instructions on the product and DO NOT OVERDOSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Good information, but please Conch state your sources and give credit to the author. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 it's a fairly large fuzzy white patch on his side.. it is raised from his skin... looks like a fuzzy white scab... Can i put pictures on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Good information, but please Conch state your sources and give credit to the author. The author would be me. The pic is a generic one off the net, so already in the public domain with no copyright infringement, but here's a link to where it is hosted http://eric.petfish.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 it's a fairly large fuzzy white patch on his side.. it is raised from his skin... looks like a fuzzy white scab... Can i put pictures on here? That sounds like a fungal infection - treat it with Furan2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 The author would be me. The pic is a generic one off the net, so already in the public domain with no copyright infringement. Oh my apologies! Good work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Oh my apologies! Good work!! No prob - this isn't the first time I've been accused of writing coherent sentences - anyway, cees is going to publish the whole article (this is an extract) in the articles section soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 okay thanks back to the pet store i go for furan2. I am accumulating a pet store of my own here.. And I check the pH regularly, as well as NH levels..I do regular water changes... my tanks are all over filtered except for 1 that is kind of exact. what can i do to avoid this problem that I am not already doing. Marlon being sick is really bothering me.. that's my buddy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 No prob - this isn't the first time I've been accused of writing coherent sentences - anyway, cees is going to publish the whole article (this is an extract) in the articles section soon. yes ive been told about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 haha good stuff. Was just worried you'd done a cut and paste job, but obviously mistaken. Back on topic, if its only affecting the one fish, try to do the treatment in a seperate tank where-ever possible. If it is genuinely white spot (ich) (which it sounds like it isnt) then you'd need to treat the main aquarium and all your fish will likely have it or develop it quickly. If you want to upload a photo, you need to use a site like photobucket.com etc, then paste the link to it here. Being in the US you'll have a larger range of medications available than us in NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted October 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I removed the pacu as I said earlier.. 20 gallon alone High temps.. and salt. the fuzzy part on his side has fallen off since my 1st posting hours ago.. but the white patch is still there.. (minus the fuzz).. Spidersweb ..."If it is genuinely white spot (ich) (which it sounds like it isnt)". What do you think it is? is the treatment for Ich and "fungal infection" different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slash Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 i have the ich problem on my loaches, how does the salt help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvia-15 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 my ornate had pretty much what u described there... white fuzzy things on its side as far as i know, its an infection caused by my whiptails latching onto its side.... ive since then removed the whiptails (into the oscar tank 8) 8) ) but yeah, the fuzz falls off, then the rest of the white stuff slowly disappears... just kept the water clean and i ddnt use any med... but then again ornates are very hardy, i know nothing about pacus except they get MASSIVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 your pleco could of latched onto the pacu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 your pleco could of latched onto the pacu? x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Fungal infections are an oportunistic infection of a wound which is bacterially infected usually. You need to treat the wound, bacterial infection and fungus. Furan will do that normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 He is really not being cooperative for pictures but i tried to snag a couple with the phone.. http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/i/1890913 ... 1&size=300 http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/i/1890902 ... 1&size=300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 okay these show in more detail whats going on.. but it looks to be getting better.. http://images.kodakgallery.com/photos43 ... _0_ALB.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 lets try this again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Forbidden You don't have permission to access /photos4308/5/77/68/84/34/7/734846877505_0_ALB.jpg on this server. :-? Have you made the gallery public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I thought show.. they are showing up when I preview... hmmm let me check... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Are you able to see the 1st links? i can send them there and share... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Can't view any of the pics... do you use photobucket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalil30 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 never heard of it... just got a snapfish account found that on here.. where do I get photobucket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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