Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 And no, not in *that* way lol. Check out my new aquisition So much for waiting until I am not moving around at the end of every year to get a big tank lmao :oops: Empty this morning And filled tonight (even tho I rinsed the propagating sand, tis still a bit murky). Planning to do a layer of dark gravel still. Heater is also going hard to get the temp up from 12 degrees haha. Tank is 180 litre by the way. Oh so many choices of what fish to put into it now!! Any must haves? Ideas? Advice? Can you tell I'm excited... :lol: Rozski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 And no, not in *that* way lol. Dang! now you got me all hyped up (jks) Nice tank BTW, What you got in mind? planted? Keep us updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I loooooove planted tanks. But I am still quite the newbie to the finer points of fish and plants So yes, lots of plants, and hopefully a nice fish community Got to find me some nice driftwood first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 :lol: what a thread topic name. looks good rozski. how are you going to set everything up? planted etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Set up? No idea yet. All I know is I want plants, driftwood and fish :lol: Already have a big java fern on the driftwood in my current tank, which is gonna look small when put in the big tank, couple of bristlenose, danios... Have vague ideas of which plants, what kind of look I like etc but no layout or anything yet. Just wanted to get tank up and running to start the cycle. Need to do some more reading on DIY CO2 as well. Hence I am open to both plant and fish type suggestions 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 ok... not to put a damper on co2 set-ups or anything but go a proper co2 set-up if you're considering a pressurized set-up. to start off try a yeast set-up. also look at undergravel ferts. saves alot of time and money in the long run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Thanks for the tips. For undergravel fertilization, do you mean like those fertilizer balls? I skipped the daltons aquatic mix, as it would be too messy if I needed to shift the tank. Have just got propagating sand in there at the moment. And I would do pressurised CO2...but slightly out of my price range. Would cost as much as the entire tank sitting next to me now I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerpeller Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 yes it would. as far a a pressurized system would go, there is a member on this forum whose deals are fully worth it. but as you said pressurized set-ups are pricey, but worth it in the long run. since price is they key go with a diy yeast set-up. not as efficient as a pressurized system but they work. which is all you want to look at right now in the set-up you currently have. and yes the fert balls will help but they do need regular maintenance etc ie. regular instalments(sp?). also look at liquid ferts and maybe a lighting upgrade if you want to go for a planted set-up. sorry for making this sound complicated, it really isn't once you have the requirements. once the foundations are done in your new set-up you will not be disapointed as they can be quickly moved and set-up in new locations as you move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Thanks again for the advice Yeah, I will be doing lots more reading and going step by step. Upgrades for filtration and lighting will come one day too lol. Even with this costing a bit less than half of what an Aqua One tank of the same size would be, I really only have the money for some plants and fish at the moment. Good things take time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 What's the surface area of your tank? (length and width on the bottom) That's more important than volume in litres, it looks like it's 180L because it's quite tall. The surface area will determine what and how many fish you can have, especially bottom feeders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Tank is 80cm long by 43 deep. Its around 55cm high I think, haven't checked exact measurement. Yeah, I realise the surface area is smaller than your standard 4 footer too Not too worried about fish numbers yet. Just having fun thinking about what exactly I will put in there thats within the limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 It can handle plenty of community fish, for example - lots of neon tetras - some platties or swordtails - danios - guppies and many others there are the ones that will swim in the upper or middle level of you tank bottoms feeders you could have 3-4 clown loaches, a few bristlenose catfish (get them small) and a few cories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Thats pretty close to what I have in mind so far -Have two bristlenose already, still small -Also two remaining danios, so will up the numbers to make a school -Love cardinals, but neons are cheaper -Maybe leopard cories? -Was considering loaches as some breed of tiny snail made it into my tank on the ambulia I bought, so thought they might be useful -LOVE blue rams, but obviously need to get tank well established first, and not sure how often they are available around here OK, its late and I'm off to bed. Night all 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helena Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hi Rozski, Good lookin tank what size and make is it please and what is the new price (I assume it was a new tank) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helena Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Sorry forget the size question, missed the post above.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hey Helena, have pm'd you with the details 8) For anyone else, tank is an Aqua Nova, basically a cheaper ripoff from an Aqua One lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me love fishy Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Good luck with your tank Rozski, there is so much to choose from. My personal opinion is to not worry about the CO2 set up for now and see how it goes. I don't have one in my four foot tank and manage to grow plants just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Yea I'm more concerned about the lighting than the CO2. Only 40 W in a 180 litre tank...and its a deep tank. Not sure what I'm going to do yet. Theres 3 switches on the side, and only 2 control the two lights, so maybe theres another connection in there we could use. Well I say we, but it will be my engineer boyfriend that will be the one doing it :lol: Anyway, an update. Picked up a nice piece of driftwood today (yes, I paid for one, I like the dark stuff in the stores, plus its presunk *hands head in shame*) Transferred my overgrown java fern onto it. Got some cheap black rocks too at a landscapers. Got gravel there too, but turned out too large once I got it home, so need another scout around tomorrow for some (anyone know where you can get p metal in Palmy?). And scored some dwarf sag, ricca and glosso for free, so thought "why not?" I wanted the dwarf sag, and wasn't going to say no to free glosso and ricca lol. Planted the sag, and the other two are floating for the time being Still a bit murky: Question too for you. I filled the tank late Saturday with tap water. *No* chlorine remover added. Its been 2 days, would I be ok to put my two danios in there to start the tank cycling? Oh, also when I did a water change in my small tank today, I took the 10 liters that I'd siphoned out and topped up this tank with it by pouring it over the filter wool in the hood. So hopefully seeded some good greeblies in there Let me know what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 looks good. What plants are you thinking other tyhan the ones you have already? 40 watts should be fine for low- light plants of plants- Java ferns, Java moss, Anubias etc. I am currently planting out a 300 L tank with just 40W of lighting and it is 60 deep. Glosso and Riccia will need highter light though/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I would wait another two days before adding the danios, chlorine will take a few days to evaporate completely. Java fern you have look awesome btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimebag Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 should be fine to put fish in, sniff the water, if you can smell chlorine then theres still chlorine in there. are you not able to take a bit of filter media out of your other tank to speed up the cycle a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozski Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Thanks guys I don't think I can even smell chlorine in the water when it comes straight out the tap. But our good LFS likes to have signs up saying "Palmy North tap water is not suitable for fish tanks" Whereas the chain LFS will just sell you chlorine remover Water has already been in there a few days michael.quain. And yeah, large java fern lol. Had quite outgrown my 35 litre tank. Can't really pilfer filter media from that tank as its just a HOB filter with a sponge and bag of ceramic noodles, and I can't leave those fish without filtration. As to plants, I have lots of ambulia in the small tank, some of which I will transfer. Bought some twisted val online, and want to get some normal val too if I can find any. Would like to get anubias nana and rotala rotundifolia. Also have on my watchlist E. osiris, stargrass and a red melon sword, but not sure about those ones yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.qian Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I don't recommend the red melon sword with your current lighting, I tried to have one before when my tank had a low 20W light and it died very quickly. E Osiris will be fine I think, since I upgrade my light to 2X 18W Arcadia bulbs my one has been growing very well, from when it had just 4 leaves with my old 20W light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Rozski I have rotala and Anubias nana if you want some. Red plants need strong light to keep their red colouring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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