ccl Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Can anyone tell me if Peacocks will be o.k in my tank? They look about 40mm - 50mm long. I have Borlei Kadango's, 2 female Kenyi about 130 - 150mm long and 3 Geraffe 120mm. The rest are pretty tame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I have kept peacocks in a similair tank with no problems at all.. I had a big red shouldered peacock male that liked to scrap with my big kadango male though because they are similair colours.. How big is your tank and what sort of peacocks you adding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I have Peacocks in with Crabros , Kenyis , Johannis and have had no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Firstly how big is the tank? The problem I see is the size difference, the peacocks will be at the bottom end of the pecking order. If the venustus is about 3 times there size, good chance the peacocks may end up being lunch. Also Kadango's are prone to fighting with peacocks too. When adding cichlids, its alot of trial & error anyway. This case looks more like error. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Most people on cichlid forum dont recommend putting peacocks in mixed tanks as they are pretty passive and can get picked on however I have them in with alot of things and they're fine.. How could a 12cm giraffe get a 4cm peacock? I had my 15cm giraffes in with 2cm demasoni 1cm yellows and various other fish and they didn't eat them I doubt a 12cm could eat a 4cm peacock especially when peacocks are quite deep.. But again I haven't seen everything! Maybe Frenchy has a story to share Id say put them in keep a good eye on them and pull them out if they're getting too picked on.. And let everyone know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccl Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Thanks all. I don't know what kind of Peacocks they are but they're in Jenson's Mt Eden. My tanks only 4' and I'd love to get a bigger one. Money is always the issue though. I might just try the Peacocks out and keep an eye on them. Stay tuned there could be cheap Peacocks or sale soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Oh yeah I got some of them They're in a tank the same as the one you describe.. I have 2 kadango males (1 10cm one smaller) a big pair of OB peacocks heaps of zebras, lithobates, yellows, demasoni etc etc and nobody bothers them at all. As for what they are, they look like and im hoping they will be red shouldered peacocks as im looking for some females for the 2 lonely males we have.. Good luck and let everyone know how you get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Stories I have a plenty, as I said it is all trial & error. :roll: A 4cm peacock is a huge difference to a 12cm Venustus, a 4cm peacock isn't that high bodied. Venustus is a predator it only has to get a hold of one end of a peacock. Yes Ryan I have sen this before, & yes I have kept peacocks in mixed community tanks too with success. My main concern is if the peacock is not a ob, as the colouration is enough for the Kadango to treat the peacock as a threat as they will look similar. Thats why I followed up with, how big is the tank? Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yeah my big kadango and red shoulder used to scrap all the time.. But I have 2 of the exact same fish hes talking about in with big kadangos and they're fine.. When/if they colour up it may well be a different story but we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 I myself wouldnt even try to keep these fish together A 4cm peacock isnt a highbodied fish yet they are still small and a 12cm Venustus would eat it quite easily If you had them Ryan and they used to scrap what were the sizes cos im postitive a 4cm peacock will not try and fight back a 12cm Venustus Also how big is the Kadanga??? CCL there is a major difference between 4' tanks in the dimensions Ryan You have posted up saying you have had big peacocks together not a 4cm one It would be appreciative if you could base your opinions on the matter at hand not change it to suit Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 The joys of the hobby is that there are theories, reasonings, myths.....especially on cases of mixing & matching cichlids. Everytime you introduce something new to an established tank you are risking trouble. That is why people say add only in multiples, re-arrange rock work, feed fish at the same time as adding new fish, avoid mixing species with similar shape, colour..... In this case there is no right or wrong answer. All people can go on is previous experiences, what they have read, heard or seen. Someone asked what they wanted to do, asked for comments & people gave their views. Pretty simple aye. :roll: Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Sorry I used past and present text.. I HAD a big male kadango and a big male red shouldered peacock together until I lost a whole tank filled with fish, also in that tank I had big giraffes and tiny fish as mentioned even a 4cm female red shouldered peacock.. And at the moment I have 2 male kadango's ones pretty big and 2 of the exact same fish hes talking about adding to his mix. And I also have a huge male peacock in their as well (but hes an OB so gets on ok). Im just basing my opinions on what has worked for me we all know with fish that the personalities of the fish dictate what you can and cant do im saying its fine from what ive tried (but I do tend to just try things first and see what happens..) and you guys are commenting from what you've tried and seen. I have kept all manner of tiny fish (demasoni 2-3cm's fryeri 2-3cm's tiny yellows etc) in with the large giraffes I had I had 3 of them ranging from 12 to 15cm's and none ever got eaten.. So yeah noone has really given him an answer id say go for it but as with anything be ready to rescue them if it goes to crap.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 :roll: Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfAfrica Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 If you like the fish then give it a go. Keep a very good eye on them though. Feed your existing fish first and then introduce the newbies. I prefer to re-arrange the tank just before lights out and introduce the newbies 5-10 mins before the lights go out. This gives them a quite time to look around before the morning rush. Get up early the next morning and see how everyone is getting on. Personally I have kept the most unlikely companions ( Africans only ) together VERY successfully. Not sure if they are still there but I supplied a lot of the Africans for Butterfly Creek - even an 18cm Borleyi I have only ever had one bad tempered Venustus - generally if your fish are well fed then they get along just fine. Territory is another trigger for aggression - you may wish to try a bare tank for a while if things get a bit intense Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Just because everyone thinks im telling tales.. You can clearly see the small fish the big giraffes and the male kadango and male peacock.. All looking fine and unharmed. Like everyone said its all about your fishes temperment and what works for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Awsum pic 8) Mekhaela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 Yeah those 2 weren't the best of mates but they still managed to get along most the time, I think I was just lucky afterall that everyone got along.. thanks Mekhaela I try my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Come on Ryan, who thought that?Just because everyone thinks im telling tales Brad questioned the way you told the story. Mystic & myself gave views on our own misadventures & what we have seen in the past. It's like you are trying to win an arguement that dosen't exist. The small fish definitely know their position in the pecking order. 2 are hanging down the bottom of the tank by the rocks & one is hugging the corner of the tank. You see that was the point I was making from the start, smaller fish don't have that happy a life in a fish tank when there are big boys in there. They will probably be fine when they grow up some more. But they are not happy in the tank at the moment. Now why did I say that, because cichlids are responsive to humans, we are a food source to them, funny how they don't hang with the others when you are at the tank. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Sweet as then I knew they were happy otherwise they wouldn't have been in there im not mean.. They were happy and unabused... I think we'll just agree to disagree on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I knew they were happy otherwise they wouldn't have been in there im not mean.. I don't think you are mean, your posting tells me you are a pleasant person. I will suggest you do some reading on cichlid behaviour. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Ryan when those little fish start swimming arund the full length of the tank like they would without the larger fish in there ill believe you that they are perfectly fine You wanna try something and see how nice everything is in your tank Take out all the rockwork and leave no ornaments and just the fish See how long the little yellows survives Just because they look fine to you doesnt mean they are enjoying their time in there getting chased when they pop to far away from the rocks Id suggest you do some research of some of these fish and see what they are really like Ill help you out with a link to one of the best cichlid forums i have come across http://www.cichlid-forum.com/profiles/s ... hp?id=1160 Have a quick look at what they say about the nature of the Venustus and what they like to hunt in the wild Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 lol ok then everyone pick on me They were in there they were happy I did take all the rocks out many a time because I had to to catch any fish and sometimes I left them out for quite some time and nothing got eaten ive read alot of profiles on giraffes trust me I do my research and yes they shouldn't have worked but they did so who knows. Alot of people off here and trademe saw that tank and said how awesome it was to see all the big and little fish getting along so well who knows like I said to frenchy im not a prick im not mean to my fish if they were suffering or getting hurt or not getting food or anything they wouldn't be in there. And advice I give is by what I see not what I read so yeah who knows for everything you read or see theres another thing you can read or see that contradicts it. Anyway I do respect yours and frenchy's opinions as you've always given good advice ill just agree to disagree again on this one and encourage people to try their own things and make up their own minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I am not picking on you. Yep your fish are still alive that is great. Yep they have no marks on them. Yep if you bomb the tank with pellets & flake the little guys will get theres. If they survive the first few weeks smaller guys will usually be fine. The rock work & odd small cave give them a chance to survive, no dramas. The question at the start is how the fish would go. 3 of us said they would get harrased. The small fish definitely know their position in the pecking order. 2 are hanging down the bottom of the tank by the rocks & one is hugging the corner of the tank You see when I said this, it proved what 3 of us said. Thats the point, if old mate tries it, it is a risk. Thats all we were saying. Then theres the other thing, that when they grow up a bit. As said earlier, similar species of fish will fight, the size difference will hardly make that fair too. So you are yet to go through that too. As your little guys all look like little females at the moment. You see some of us have done what you have done before with mixed results. Theres the introduction, then theres the knocking in period, then there will be another one when they mature. Usually one fish will give in, sometimes in a tank with limited space they won't. Then there are the other times when the victor will be relentless. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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