Hi Ukka,
I agree totally with u, but this thread is a new Zealand thread, we can't import goldfish, I suppose some millionaires could lol, but basically importing any goldfish in new Zealand is banned, so for the last approx 15 years as far as I'm aware all gf in NZ are line bred from the old original strains. And the long flowing fins of the veiltail seem to have vanished, no one appears to be breeding that strain, attached pic off Internet of the type of gf I personally am trying to breed, if I could even get ONE fish, it would be a start lol,