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The 103 might be fine to keep the tank cycle going.. but once spawning begins it may be a prob as it could suck up some eggs.. and would certainly suck the fry up once hatched.
You "might" be able to fit a sponge over the filter intake.. not sure.. but someone will know.
You "can't" establish a new sponge filter in two or three days.. it takes time.
Bill.
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Not good to post the same thing in two sections meesheelly.. you already had some replies here.
http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/-vp152924.html#152924
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So what you're saying Bill that the heater operates better horizontally NOT vertically?? This contradicts the operating instructions that came with the heater!
We are always told to follow the instructions.. so it may be that your heater is designed to work in an upright position.
There are still a few heaters around that are not meant to be fully submersed.. (don't know if they still sell them.. but..) and in this case they are almost always fitted vertically with the top out of the water... but I thought these were discontinued.
There's also ones that fit in the filter unit.. and I don't know how these are fitted.. but the above is for the general run of the mill type heaters.
Here's someone else with heat probs..
Richms post (today) in Technical (Hydor Inline Heaters)
Heat loss is a function of tank area and ambient temperatureIf you reduce the tank area exposed to the cold room, you will decrese the power needed. I have a 300 litre tank and have had to put 700 watts of heat in it because its long, tall and thin, and the room is bloody freezing, still sinks to 23° overnight when the room gets to 7° but I figure its cheaper to heat the tank then the whole house like I did last year, since we are not really using the lounge as much.
Which is basically what I was explaining above.
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Usually "sponge" filters don't cause a problem in any breeding situation.
Just set it to flow at a nice steady gentle pace with no surging.
Bill.
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Especially when the link don't work
Bill.
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I think you took a wrong turn at the round-about.. and are now going up the wrong road
You ask:
If I put in the some of the filterwool in a stocking from a fluval and sit on the bottom of the tank, is this going to do the trickNo.. this won't help in any way.
The idea behind "seeding" a new tank from an established one is an easy one, and often used.
By using some of the water from the established tank, along with an established filter, you can then basically bypass the cycle period.
You can't just pop a bit of media into the tank because in order for that media to work, it has to have a flow of water going over it to keep the benificial bacteria alive.
If you have "two" filters on your other tank...
I also have in my big tank a fluval 103 & 203... and they have been running for a few months.. then one of these should be ideal to kick start your new setup... without having to re-cycle.
The "new" sponge filter you have will possibly not be established enough.. so what you do here is you pop the sponge filter into the main tank for a week or so to allow it to become established with a good colony of benificial bacteria.
It will be always ready for next time if you do this. (Keep it running at all times)
Don't clean it during this time.. as an old gungy filter works much better than a new one in this situation.
If you do it right, there should be no reason why you can't have it ready in a couple of days.. but just allow time to check everything is as it should be.. temp.. filtration.. etc.
A bare bottom.. (the tank that is..) would be best for Rummies.
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Hi there,
Shouldn't be a prob if you are using some of the water from the old tank.. but would be better still if you could use an established filter as well.. a sponge type if poss.
Personally.. if you are using the 13L for breeding, I would leave the gravel out.
Easier to clean.. plus the fry won't get lost or stuck in the gravel.
Bill.
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Under the circumstances.. I would take a sample of your "tap" water to the LFS and let them check it.
It "may" be that the pH is high directly from the source.. so you will be battling forever trying to stabilize it.
Bill.
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Hi there,
Good to have you join us.
Hope you find lots of interest here.
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Trust Wok to say something funny..
OLD... "Who.. ME..?"
Heaters have got to be the most neglected thing in most tanks, and I have visited countless homes where the owner has complained their tank temp won't stay stable.. or reach the right heat.. but yet they have the correct heater installed.
We get the situations where the heater is installed in an "upright" position, and is often stuck in a corner behind a rock or plants.
A heater in this situation is highly inefficient.. as the rising heat from the heater is constantly switching the thermostat on and off.. as the heat "around" the heater is saying that the temp is ok.. but in fact the far end of the tank is often quite a bit colder that the surrounding area of the heater.
Single or double heaters should always be placed as horizontal as possible for the best heat dispersion, and the lower you can fit them.. (without touching the gravel etc).. the better... as heat rises.
Fit single ones centrally in the tank.. (if possible).. and if using two, fit one at either end on the back.
Using the filter flow to distribute the heat is always good.
If the "second" heater is just a safety net in case the first one fails.. then set the temp slightly lower on it, so that it will only come on if the main one fails to maintain the temp.
Many think that a large heater will increase the power bill.. but this is not always so.. as a larger heater (in the right conditions).. will be on far less than a small heater that is fighting to maintain the right temp.
Heaters should be checked periodically for stability of temp.. plus any undue leakage as the seals get old... plus any crustations caused by gravel contact should be removed carefully after switching the heater off and allowing it to cool.
A good habit to get into is the "back of the hand test"
Just place the back of your hand against the glass and you should be able to feel any loss of temp. This takes a bit of time to learn.. but if done every day while feeding it soon becomes easy to "feel" the right temp.
Bottle feeding mums always used to test the temp of the milk on the back of their hands
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Wok said:
Just remember 1w per litre of waterSG said:
Ahh.. thanks Wok - didn't know there was a "rule" as such.You should look at it as a "basic guideline" more than a "rule"
Suphew said:
If you were thinking of buying another I would do it anyway, far safer to have two heaters in a larger tank incase one fails, plus helps spread the heating out a bit if you don't have a lot of water movement.So true.. as there are so many variations and conditions to consider.
Heaters are (basically) rated to bring a certain volume of water to a certain temp and hold it there under the control of the thermostat.
A large tank in a consistantly warm living room would possibly have no probs holding its temp.. with the right heater/s.. but the same tank in a cold house, or out in a garage, would possibly struggle to maintain the temp.
Anyone... no matter who they are, or what size tank they have, should expect their heaters to be working pretty hard over the winter, and many rely on heaters that have not been checked or replaced for years.. so as Suphew points out.. having the two heaters in there is your insurance policy.. as if one fails.. then the other can take over.
When considering heater size you should aim for something slightly above the borderline.. as a small heater in a large tank will almost be on constantly.. whereas a large heater in a small tank will cook it if anything goes wrong.
It is still amazing to see people who spend countless hundreds on tanks and fish.. but yet fail to spend that few dollars on an extra quality heater
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Just two things..
How old is the test kit.. and.. do you have anything in the way of ornaments or shells in your tank..?
Bill.
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Hi Jese,
Welcome to the site.
Afraid we are going to need a lot more details if you want help..
Tank size.. Inmates.. Conditions.. How long tank has been setup... Filtration.. Tests.. Water changes done.. etc.
It's like asking..
"How many beans are in the tin that I haven't opened yet..?"
Don't know how the markets are out there, but there seems to be a spate of Guppie problems and deaths at the moment, which may be bad batches that have originated from one or two sources.
Bill.
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Hi there,
There were a few posts about this some time back, and I think the outcome was a fault with the type of material used for the suction cups.
Seem to remember the faulty ones were replaced by the stores they were bought from.. but can't be sure.
I also think that some sterilized the cups and had no further probs...
Posts were a fair time back.
Bill.
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But some will "still" not give it a second thought
You were up in Auckland today and you didn't drop by?Shame on you... Sylvia Park is only up the road too
Sorry.. couldn't resist
Bill.
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Littlelater asked:
why would that be....it's not as though anyone knows where they live invercargil is a big place????Was just a friendly warning.
Seem to recollect some time back a member showing some folks his prize discus collection.
He was away for a few hours shopping.. and on his return his tanks were bare of every discus he had.. and this is just one case.
Doesn't take long to find someones location.. and many members post their details here (often without thought)... often around holiday times.
Phone numbers are another thing..
Ring ring.. ring ring.. nobody there..
Only takes a few minutes to ruin someones life.
Sorry if it sounded harse.. but it's a reality.
Southerrrngirrl.
Suggest you get a good timer and set it so that either your tank lights, or your house lights come on at certain times, plus have your mail stopped while you are away.
Bill.
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Not a very good idea to post on an open forum that you will be away for an extended period... for obvious reasons
Bill.
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Anyhow thanks all, turns out I won't be using that stuff anyway, I've found some plastic container lids that slice up to exactly what I want & I know they will be inert.
Thread locked to avoid further confrontations.
Bill.
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Looking at the links you provided.. it seems that the method you are trying to adopt will be like pushing the proverbial uphill.. as you will will "never" create enough forced air pressure using ...
Anyways - I have gone to the wreckers and bought the fan that blows hot air around the car from inside the dashboard. - a "squirrel cage fan"You would get more "puff" from a 12 dollar fan from the Warehouse that runs on 240vac... and you have the speed changes built in..
The slightest backpressure on a car fan system (even the filter).. would make it ineffective.
It states in your links that you need around half a meter per second to force air through the Hepa filter.. and this would need to be maintained as the filter began to clog slightly.
I have done a lot of work on "clean rooms" and "sterile units".. and in all cases the air is forced via the ducting surrounding the output of the fan.. which is often very powerful and high speed.
Are you trying to create a mini clean room with sterile conditions...?
.. or just a sterile cabinet that you can access through sealed arm and hand units.. like they use for premature babies in hospitals...?
Looking back at car parts.. one of the electric cooling fans from a modern car "might" just give you enough output.. but a mains type fan would save a lot of hassle.
Bill.
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Rozski said:
Aaaah conflicting information! I thought oxygen weed was good, then I got told by the Wet Pets staff that it isnt good for goldfish, and now its good? lolBut did you bother to ask their reason for saying this..?
Elodia.. (Oxygen Weed).. is a common plant used in coldwater setups.
Wetpets were possibly referring to the fact that many Goldies will tear it apart in quick short time, and love munching on it.
Often it is put in tanks as a sacrificial plant (as it is cheap).. so that the fish munch on that instead of the more expensive plants.
Saying something "isn't good" for a fish might imply that it is harmful in some way.. which the plant in question is not.. as many Goldfish keepers will testify
Bill.
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Frenchy..
Would you agree that more has been published on the net about fish in the past five years.. that has been put into print in the last 100 years..?
Nobody is running these guys down.. certainly not me.. but if we believed "everything" that was said.. then nothing would ever get done.
You "might" be allergic to blood worms.. but millions use them with no probs.
If you posted today that your fish had suddenly developed worm like growths coming from the top of its head after feeding bloodworm.. it would be world news within seconds.. and so blood worm would then become a taboo food to feed out fish.
By the end of the month, someone, somewhere, would be posting that some expert on a site in NZ said that their fish had these "enormous" growths coming out of... etc.
So easily done
It would be true to say that any modern publication on fish has used findings from hobbyists on the net.. which was basically my point.
None of the books would exist if it were not for the hobbyist.
Bill.
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Stu said:
The thing I have with people saying that white worms are fatty. it they just say it, then quote some book that just says it or quotes a professer with heeps of knowlage but he just says it - maybe with an addition in my experiance - but were's the proofThis is such a classic line.. so good in fact, that it should be framed and posted for all eternity
It has been said so many times that one can become anything they want in cyberspace.. and many of these so called "expert quotes" from so called experts in the field, are just the pickings from other peoples brains.. and in many cases not from hard out study or experience.
Who wrote most of the books that have been published over the last decade or so..?
Some person with a fancy name perhaps.. plus possibly a few letters behind his title.. (nd I don't denounce such persons.. as they must have done "some" research.. plus writing and editing is not easy). but then comes the second question..
"Where did these guys get all the info from...?"
Invariably from right here off the forums and sites that we all have contributed to over the years..
Many of these "quoted experts" are using info that is now freely available off the net.. but are "so" often quoted as being the last word on the subject.
Many denounce the old books as being dated and not worth reading... but these authors had no Internet, and wrote their findings from true experiences and trials in many cases... some of which took decades.
BTW:.. All todays findings on worms and live foods were well known back in the late 1950's, but todays "experts" recon they have made new discoveries.
Tubifex (live).. was fed by millions of aquarists world wide.. as were White Worms.. all with no adverse effects.. if fed correctly and in moderation.
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Layton asked:
A poll would only give you numbers.. but not actually "who" was/is using what.. which is possibly more important.
Bill.