cheers guys, im not really that interested in breeding, just admiring, have work and things to focus on. i was more concerned with longevity and stuff. i do have a 1 and a half y/o male "lutino bell",not sure if thats even desirable for the albino gene pool, but i remember reading that there is a female gender bias so.. if any of the breeders are interested in swapping for a female, but it seems the craze has settled, some awesome geckos being produced though..