shiuh Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Hi all. i am thinking of DIY a breeding setup for breeding livebearers. i have one of those typical 4 shelves bunnings type galvanised steel stands. 3 - 730mm x 300mm x 300mm tanks. 1 - 730mm x 300mm x 300mm Sump at the bottom shelve (heater, pump, UV filter) illustrated in my sketch. question is what sort of submersible pump can i get in order to have enough power to pump to all above tanks? the shelves itself is 1500mm high plus 300mm high tank, so it will be 1800mm height in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 oh yea...im thinking of 19mm hose or pipe for the setup. and a eheim 1250 pump and going thru a trickle filter then UV filter then up to tanks again. would this do the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 i thought you already had a Livebearer breeding setup that you posted on here a little while ago???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 man..im thinking of another one....any help would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 Why re-invent the wheel... your other one looked fantastic IMHO Can't help with the pump.. but I would think the head height might be a prob unless you are prepared to spend a bit on quality. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 He has crossed the straights to the lower part of the world and now has to deal with chlorinated water supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shiuh Posted June 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 lol...there is always room for improvements. lately i have found out while im heavily breeding poecilia, xiphophorin species, hybrid of this species (koi swords and platies) with areas on their bodies fequently develop a type of tumors. :-? got sick of this...and just want to upgrade the filteration a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 think a 1250 pump would be way to small for what you have drawn, I have two suggestions firstly use a 1060 pump (there are plently of these round secondhand for $100 or so), this will give you the head height and flow you require. Secondly why pump to all the tanks?? let gravity do the work for you, put a overflow in each tank draining into the next. this will also save you a huge amount of plumbing for feeds and returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted June 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 thanks suphew for the suggestion. i cant find seem to find eheim 1060 on TM, anywhere else i can check out? or are there any pumps that will give me the head height and flow that i need? is one of this UV anygood? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=58269634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberfin Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I'm currently doing exactly what you're about to do - Multiple tanks sharing a common sump filter with UV. Even powerful powerheads for aquarium use aren't strong enough to pump more than a trickle to that height but some of the laguana pond pumps can. I can't remember the exact modle number but I will find out for you tomorrow. Definiately a good idea to have a hole drilled in the bottom of each tank for an overflow. The whole system can be powered by one consistent pump instead of multiple pumps whos flow rates may begin to vary over time. I still havn't decided on a UV filter. Many out there are designed for pond use so they are primarily designed to eliminate algae. Although, hypothetically, they will kill pathogens, the specs simply state 'kills algae' - no mention of 'kills other nasties'. So best to confirm with whomever you get it from that it will definately kill pathogens. Generally, the stronger the UV light, the more bugs it kills. Having said that, I think you will only require a relatively small one. Having too fast a flow through it reduces its effectiveness. If the water flow is too fast, instead of placing the UV 'in-line', you could have it drawing water from the sump, processing it, then returning it to the sump again. I'll hopefully be finding out more about what's available tomorrow. Have you had any recommended to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 I have used an resin king 4 pump, think most bigger ponds would be fine. Most have head hight on the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Theres a 1260 which is a new version of the 1060, same spec, on trademe at the moment, would be purfect for what you want http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=59036068 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted June 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 yup. saw that. i would presume it would go up high in $$$. otherwise it is a good reliable pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 There is another option, that is a sump pump. There not made for Aquariums but they will do the job. There are many brands but dam if I can remember any right now. There is the "one pump" it is avalable here the wholesaler is Brocklands or if you what to spend some $$ there are magnetic drive pumps on commercial web sites you just have to ask that it is 240V unlike the US which runs on 115V. I have a magnetic drive a really good 1 and it cost me a little under $1000.00 to my door including custom fees, gst etc. But it is probably more powerful then you require so a smaller module will be cheeper but just as reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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