KP Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 I'm scouting for a quiet performance based skimmer for a 400L tank and will be in a cabinet with sump. After a bit of research I have narrowed it down to either the :lol: Tunze 9010 http://www.tunze.com/149.html?&L=1&C=NZ&user_tunzeprod_pi1[predid]=-infoxunter028 or :lol: Deltec AP600 http://www.deltecusa.us/proteinskimmers/ap701.php Is anyone using either of these skimmers, or is there another option? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquagold Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Was talking with a friend the other day who said to put a positive pressure on the air intake by attaching an air pump/blower. Reckons it increases the efficency.... Anyone heard anything. This was going to be attached to an abalone hatchery though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Not quite sure about that particular model Tunze, but Tunze work on the theory that the water should not be completely "stripped", and as a result their skimmers do not remove as much as some other skimmers. The importer of both these skimmers is Reef, you could drop him a pm & ask for a frank opinion on both these skimmers. I'm not sure if he's still logging in to the forum though, if you don't hear back from him in say a couple of days, drop me a pm & I'll give you his contact details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 i use the deltec ap902, it seriously kicks arse http://www.deltecusa.us/proteinskimmers/ap902.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 me got the ap701 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 400 litre system... you should be running something small but with pulling power. deltec 1250 turbo will be perfect. Awesome skimmers..I run two. an AP is too big I reckon and a waste of money.....Im presuming it is more expensive...check with REEF, he will be able to tell you the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 for sure AP902 or even 701 too big for that size tank. either 1250 or 1060 would be better. you should be able to pick one up 2nd hand for about $500 - $800 depending on actual model and condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP Posted May 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Thanks, Yeah I was adding in an upgrade factor. Who knows how long it will take to want to go larger than 400L. :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 mate get the biggest deltec you can afford. i got an ap850 for my 750l system, and wish i had gone bigger.... i sometimes get the feeling that it is running at its full capacity and could be pulling out more. as far as noise, the 850 is the noisest thing in my setup though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 mate get the biggest deltec you can afford. i got an ap850 for my 750l system, and wish i had gone bigger.... i sometimes get the feeling that it is running at its full capacity and could be pulling out more. as far as noise, the 850 is the noisest thing in my setup though... I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 skimmer designs are calculated for certain size tanks. overdoing it pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 skimmer designs are calculated for certain size tanks. overdoing it pointless Not sure I agree with this, by the time you consider different stocking levels, feeding levels, marketing exagration, quality of and amount of water changes, possible upgrades, etc I think going over size is a very good idea, I dont think you can over skim and you can always turn the air down if your worried about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 overdoing it pointless unless u r planning to upgrade in the future - as I was when i bought the AP902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Bigger is always better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Bigger is always better. yup, anyone who tells you size doesnt matter probably has a small one. my choice would be Deltec 1st for the size they spec and then go as much larger in their range as you are prepared to spend. some Facts ive noticed in this hobby...1. you will upgrade 2. you will want to swap your ''other brand'' for a Deltec, never the other way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tel Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 Was talking with a friend the other day who said to put a positive pressure on the air intake by attaching an air pump/blower. Reckons it increases the efficency.... Anyone heard anything. This was going to be attached to an abalone hatchery though. could be a lot abalone 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feelers Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 You could try that artic skimmer the jetski's selling - the deltec knockoff one. Its pretty expensive for a copycat though, I'm wanting to see how good it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 could be a lot abalone 8) Yes this would be right. Well it would be if it is quite alarge skimmer. Even smaller skimmers will benifit from this, depending on the quality of the venturi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 the general recommendation [with deltecs anyway] is to restrict the amount of air being sucked in by the venturi. surele that means that it has more than enough air available on these particular models. i was forcing air into my old modified queen skimmers, which seemed to help a fair bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 the general recommendation [with deltecs anyway] is to restrict the amount of air being sucked in by the venturi. surele that means that it has more than enough air available on these particular models. i was forcing air into my old modified queen skimmers, which seemed to help a fair bit. I agree, i skimmers like deltec there may be no need. Queen skimmers, sure this is the only way you can get them to work. But one would assume that the skimmer used on abalone would be huge, like one of the YK2 skimmers. Adding a air pump or blower may really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skuzza Posted May 3, 2006 Report Share Posted May 3, 2006 I have a deltec and it as chim said kicks arse.But jetski has got sum good stuff at great prices plus second hand.Going to be a tough one to decide as it was for me because they all say they are the best. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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