ryanjury Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I saw these africans in a display tank in a pet shop in Hamilton the other day just wondering if anyone has any or has seen any for sale as id like a pair or trio of each, I put my name on the large waiting list for some at the shop but dont know how successful ill be.. Aurora Cichlid (Metriaclima aurora or Ps http://www.bigskycichlids.com/Maurorax.htm Zebra Ice Blue Maybe someone breeds them... Hopefully anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi_man Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 i'm pretty sure aurora are on most pet shop import lists, wonderworld in rotorua had some a month or two ago between $15 and $20 6cm or so. This is my male greshakei i think that is the species you are talking about, i am trying to find females but they are brown like a number of other mbuna and if i see one in the shop i dont know for sure what it is. anyway, good luck in your search. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 ok wrong pic I had 2 pics with the same name in my photo bucket the ram and the zebra... Guess ive got to forget to click on the preview button before posting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 hmmm ok I dont know what happened with the pics but its all good now.. Yeah im a bit worried about buying them as pairs/trios from the pet shop as a female could be any number of species and then if they breed you get hybrids that are no good to anyone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoandWilly Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 OK we have a big male, and we ordered some females from pet city in hamilton once but when they came in we didnt have the money. They had all males but were able to get the female's from the supplier. Might be worth ringing up Dan and asking if they can get in the ice blue zebra females. I have noticed that pretty much all stores only stock the males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Yeah pet city in Hamilton was where I saw them in the dispaly tank and who ive been dealing with to try and get some.. Dealing with Rachel in the fish section.. She said some were in quarantine so hopefully they get some in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiden Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Bryan at the Goldfish bowl in hamilton may be able to get some in for you as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Thanks ill definately give him a call as well and see what he can do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 umm just a query, When I looked up Ice blue, it referred to it as a Metriaclima estherae, which over here is commonly called a red top zebra. Which is a different fish all together from a Metriaclima aurora. Have a look at both way different fish ah...which do they have? Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 LOL you will find it funny but they have fish that look like both in the tank.. I am assuming ones an aurora and ones a zebra ice blue... Either way I want both but yeah ive found the same thing just tried to average out the fish and decide what name belongs to what.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I want both fish if thats what you were asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 I want both fish if thats what you were asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 okay guys the first pic at the top is a greyshakei or Pseudotropheus greshakei IMO though Metriaclima zebra "red-top" is a very very similiar species often tough to choose between which one is actually the real fish. Its often not possible to choose between them till they are of breeding size and coloured up totally. Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 So how do you tell the difference? It came up on a search for zebra blue ice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 So how do you tell the difference? It came up on a search for zebra blue ice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 So how do you tell the difference? It came up on a search for zebra blue ice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 I didn't think red tops were a Metriaclima estherae. There are already Cobalt Blues & Red Zebras{Pulu Points} under that scientific name. The joys of common names & using websites. What is the difference between Maylandia greshakei & Metriaclima zebra "red-top"? I dont know I havent really looked into it myself. Both look the same. Wouldn't suprise me if they are the same fish either. Just the red tops & pseudotropheus being the old school names. The new lines smuggled here recently being called Greshakei. That being there new name. With them being referred to as Ice Blues too. Looks like people think they are different fish. Wouldn't be the first time here in Aussie. Great, something else for me to try & research on. I did find a couple of sites that had Ice blue, red tops...under the same name too. That being greshakei, leads me more down the same track. Off I go again see wha I can find out. Usually though when researching, they will have formerly known as , but that isnt coming up either. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Just to add to the confusion, http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/m_emmiltos.php This is from one source I trust, none of the variants listed below look like the "red tops" here in Aus. So hey Brad, your an Aussie & seen the fish here, what u reckon? Aussies been calling what everyone else calls "Ice Blues" as "red tops"? as in wrong name???? Wouldn't suprise me either. :lol: As I was saying, M. emmiltos was once classified as Pseudotropheus "Red Top Zebra," but what I didn't say was that Pseudotropheus "Red Top Zebra" was broken up to create four new species. There is considerable debate as to whether these four species are actually true biological species or just geographical variants. In fact, they are so similar that in all reality you would ned to know where in Lake Malawi the fish were collected in order to tell them apart. The descriptions that distinguish these four species are so minor, and as Michael Oliver has stated, "breathtakingly trivial," that instead of breaking them up, I'll just cover all four of them in this single profile article. Notwithstanding, all of the pictures that will be presented here are of Maylandia emmiltos. Maylandia emmiltos hails from Mpanga Rocks, off Chilumba. The other three "Red Top Zebras" include: Maylandia pyrsonotos (from Nakantenga Island), M. sandaracinos from Nkudzi Bay (in the southeast arm of Lake Malawi), and Maylandia thapsinogen (from Eccles Reef, north of Chinyankwazi Island). Even though these species are difficult to dinstinguish, I should state that M. pyrsonotos is the only one of the four whose black vertical bars actually extend into the basal portion of the dorsal fin. These so-called "Red Top Zebras" are of course distinguished by their brilliant orangish-red dorsal and tail fins. They generally reach a maximum length of 12-13 cm (5 inches) and dispaly typical mbuna behavior: aggressive, active, and even belicose at times. This particular mbuna, despite its modest size, usually has no trouble climbing a tank's heirarchy to assume the king's role. When a tank is decorated with caves and plenty of other hiding places, a satisfactory level of harmony can be achieved. M. emmiltos and its cousins are strict vegetarians and do best when fed a diet consisting primarily of Spirulina flakes. if you want to kno the difference between gres../auror.. http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=2369 http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=2357&genusname=Pseudotropheus&speciesname=aurora Enough for one day my head is hurting :-? Bourban O'clock I think Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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