SilverBlade86 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi there, I just got a big tank (around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide) and some WCMMs together with some Oxygen Weed. I bought 2 females and 1 male. Anyone know how I can induce them to spawn later? The Oxygen Weed isnt anchored down, and its just floating around. I might throw in a piece of driftwood in there though. Anyone have a site where I could see how to breed WCMMs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 They will do so all by themselves with no effort from you. Fry will be very hard to see and will cling to the sides of the tank or plants. Shine a torch down from above and their eyes will reflect in the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I do not plan to seperate the parents from their children, but how do I feed both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I just got a big tank (around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide) That is one major size of tank by any standards. You will need some "really" long arms in order to service it The tank you mention is more suited to a pretty large community of fish, rather than being wasted as a breeding tank... however.. you ask: I do not plan to seperate the parents from their children, but how do I feed both? The problems that occur with breeding most fish is getting food into their mouths at the earliest stages of development. Sure... they will breedin there.. as would most fish, but once they have consumed their egg sacs they will have a "real" hard time finding food in such a vast body of water. Fish like the WCMM are great little fish to spawn.. but they also have very tiny mouths that can only consume Infusoria or emulsified foods in the early stages.. and most would recomend spawning them in a tub outdoors.. or perhaps a 600X300X300 .. so that their food is always there without exhausting themselves while looking for it. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hmm, ok, perhaps I'll put everyone into a small tub first till I can get some families going. How would I get infurosia? The thing is, this really shouldnt be classified as a tank, its more like an outdoors .... tank? Well something like that anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookie Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hmm, ok, perhaps I'll put everyone into a small tub first till I can get some families going. How would I get infurosia? Take a lettuce leaf or two and scrunch it a wee bit then drop it in the water, this will help get the infurosia going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 They tend to swim near the top in the early stages so shallow water helps bring them closer to the food. They tend to lay a few eggs often rather than large spawnings so you will end up with fish at all stages of development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 i tend to a little bit of cold water change to induce their spawnings. best spawn with a school of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hmm ok, I'll do as I've been told. However, it seems that I've overestimated. The actual tank size is actually only 2 feet in length. :-? Will that be big enough for the WCMMs? Also, how do the eggs look like? Will they lay eggs in Oxygen Weed? I was actually going to go buy a couple of clumps of Java Moss but the LFS is closed on Tuesdays. I plan to keep them down with some rocks. On a side note, the WCMMs seem to be taken with the Oxygen Weed. I've anchored the plant using some rocks and they like to hide underneath. One disturbing thing I've noticed is that some of my Oxygen Weed has just turned brown overnight. Whats wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I have bred them in the little tanks from the wharehouse ( about 15 litres) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiuh Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 yes. they are not fussy breeders. i have been breeding them in a 9 L tank once . only 2 males and 2 females. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 How do the eggs look like though? And do they like Oxygen Weed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 The eggs are not easy to see. If you use a torch the first signs will probably be the fry sticking to the glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I never managed to see the eggs they were so tiny and my eyesight isn't 20/20 :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Ohh I see. Hmm, thanks guys. I'll ask if I'm concerned with anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I have only ever seen the eggs once and that was when the female was laying them. guppies can see them very well as they were following close behind and eating them :evil: they are small and clear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Would they be maybe the size of this dot? -> . Also, it is alright for me to starve the fish for a couple of days? I was told that after buying them I should let them settle down before feeding them. Or will they eat off my Oxygen Weed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 yeah.. they would be the size of this dot . With regards to starving them..nah don't see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 They will not starve over 2 days. It does pay to let them settle a day or 2 before feeding though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBlade86 Posted February 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Ahh ok. I'll try to keep an eye out for eggs I guess. I couldnt wait for more fry so I went out and bought another female. The first 3 seem to be happily swimming about but the new one is no where to be seen. Is it shy? Also, they dont like eating my food yet. I have been holding them back from food for nearly 4 days now and they seem fine. I threw in some and they dont eat it. Could they eat Oxygen Weed or Java Moss? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alextret Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 I have WCMM outside in a situation similar to yours. I bought them a couple of months ago. They bred several times. I'm giving liquifry to the fry. I'm not sure if they are growing at a suitable rate, but there are many of them quite alive. But, odd enough, I never figured out what to feed to the parents - they refuse flakes (even exactly the same brand that they feed them at LFS). They look OK though, although I suspect that they did eat the fry recently. I can't tell for sure as I have three tanks syphoned through together, and fry more or less automatically gets syphoned away to a neighboring tank which they have to themselves (it is not by design, by I find the outcome quite entertaining). Also, odd enough, I'm quite confused about how to sex the adults. They are changing color all the time. I was quite certain to have 2 males (colored and cocky) and three females (less color). But once it became colder, they all turned to pitch black, and behave more or less equally cocky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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