casey05 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Just bought two clown loaches today and well they have lots a little white spots on em and i think its white spot.Can anyone help with perhaps any info as to how to really identify it and if theres any possible cures and if its deadly?Please help as i have over $300 worth of fish and i want to help em if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_see Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Take a look at the Diseases section of the site; this is treatable, and your LFS will have the treatment in stock. The other part seems to be cranking up the temp in the tank to around 29. Do you have a quarantine or hospital tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 i have another tank to use as one but i dont have a heater for it.so no.so i put the temp up to 28-29 and i'll go to the LFS(animates or wetpets) and see what they have.do you have any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi Casey, Clown Loaches are prone to Whitespot, this looks like the fish have been covered in Salt You will probably need to medicate with Whitespot Cure and turn your temp up to 28-30 degrees. If you do a search on here for Whitespot you may find some other info on how to treat this. It is always a good idea to study the fish for a wee while while they are in the tank at the shop, any fish that look suspect, as in the way they are behaving, diease, fin rot etc, DO NOT BUY, or if you do BUY put them into a quaritine tank for a couple of weeks before releasing them into your full time tank. Good Luck with ya Loaches. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Casey, I think it is advised not to turn up your temp untill you have the medication in the tank, have read this in another post. Once again Good Luck. Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Thanks Lynda. I got them from Levin Petworld today and they looked fine when i bought them.I will make sure though in future to check real carefully though.Thanks for the recommendation of whitespot cure.Does it work well and efficiently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Well well well. Where is the quarantine tank that you should have to protect yourself and of course your $300 worth of fish. It is such a simple thing to do and a sure fie way of protecting your charges. As clowns are scaleless, you'll need to use only half dose for treating them. Like another poster says, check the forum using the "SEARCH" option at the top of the page. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LYNDYLOO Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Casey are you from Levin or Palmerston? Think you mentioned before that you have bought fishies from Levin Petworld, Go and see Grant, he will sort you out something but as Alan says only use this at 1/2 the dosage for Loaches as they are very sensitive to meds. Good Luck Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Im from Linton,Palmerston North.I cant go to levin til the weekend.dads going to get some whitespot cure today.so when he comes back from work than i'll do a 1/2 dosage as mentioned above.and to alan well if i had the money to buy a new heater and air pump than i would setup a quarantine tank but i dont so i unfortunately have to take these kinda risks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 And risk $300 worth of fish. To me that is a strange choice. Just think, if you had a Q tank, and it wasn't in use. You could have babies in there. Woooppppssssss!!! Sounds like I'm trying to get you into MTS. But do try and get a Q tank. It's well worth the costs. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 yeah i suppose your right alan.about the it would be worthwhile part.dad got the wunder whitespot cure and it has that malachite green in it.put half dosage in and keeping a good eye on fish.says 1mL per 20L i think and to dose again in the next 3days and if fish look discomforted than do a 50% water change.has anyone had to do water changes and is it compulsory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 When I first had my fish my goldfish got whitespot after being hasseled by a molly...I was fortunate to spot it (no pun intended) before it became too serious...I don't recall off hand how long I treated but I did have to do a 25% water change before each dose...but that may depend on the brand you use, I don't know...but the directions weren't very clear on the bottle so I e-mailed the company's customer service and confirmed about the water change. It was cleared up in no time! Good luck...and let us know how fishies are doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I rang up Levin petworld today and they said that clown loaches get it when put from chilly water into warm water.he advised me to put the temp up to 28 degrees celcius and use that methyl(not sure :-? )blue but i told him i'd used whitespot cure and he said just wait a day or two and the cysts will fall off and then you do a water change to get the cysts off the bottom.Does that sound about right to you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Nothing like right. The temperature rising is to get their lifecycle working quicker. The cysts fall of the fish then hatch from the bottom and go looking for a host (fish) to carry on their dastardly deed. It is this free swimming time that the chemicals kill the flagilites, (I think that's what they are called). That is why you carry on treating the fish three days after you can see the fish are clear of them. Syphoning off the bottom only decreases the number of cysts to hatch, When a cyst hatches it is not just one little fella, it's heaps of them per cyst. The reason the air is increased is cause there is less oxygen in the water as it warms. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookie Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Hi, I've been told by several people, that the wunder white spot cure is less than desirable. Some said the blue circle WS cure was better. When treating them, it is recommended that you first do a 50% water change, then medicate. White spot are water born and in warm temps can take between 24 to 48 hours to hatch and seek out your fishies. So you will need to do a second treatment. Do another 50% water change then treat again. BUT DON'T treat more than 3 times without doing a FULL water change. Also, you need to remove any carbon from your filters, as this will remove the medication before it has taken effect. Good Luck. I went through this myself not long ago, due to a bully fish. I used the Blue Circle WS cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 yeah guys im having alotta trouble getting rid of my whitespot problem.starting to think why i ever gotfish in the first place.is there any real easy way to get rid of this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Nope. No easy way at all. But a little concilation here, your fish are still alive. I don't use any of those brands, I suss out methylene blue when I need it. Alan 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 how long does it take to get rid of whitespot with methylene blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted January 29, 2006 Report Share Posted January 29, 2006 Can't answer on that one Casey...I used something different. Since Alan used that he'd be the one to answer. As Kookie said, remove carbon from filters as this removes the medications you are using. When you're doing the water change, vacuum the bottom as well. I know its difficult when your fish are not "well" but try to have patience...haha...sorry, I don't have any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey05 Posted January 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 hey guys.thanks for your great advice.did a water change today(about 25-30%) and took the carbon out and added a dose of meds again.Its been like 4-5hrs and theres a considerable lesser amount of white spots on my clown loaches :bounce: I think the whitespot cure might actually be working Im in happier mood now about the whole situation.thanks again guys.Especially alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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