petplanet Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Moved house awhile ago. A couple of days after the move, the RCD for the tanks kept tripping. I kept resetting it. The third time, I heard a popping noise from my algae tank in the basement. The source of the noise was a Hydor sponge/heater combo filter which was in the process of exploding underwater and spewing out what looked like smoke. I hit the RCD. Disconnected the filter and restarted the system. Made the all important mental note to put another filter and heater in the tank. A month passed..... Must sort that tank out now dead worms are floating on the surface. I thought those worms were tough. Not as tough as the baby pearl bubble that was still in the currentless cold tank. Fished it out and dropped it in the main tank. Two weeks later and it has never looked better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 AND WE STILL MANAGE TO KILL THEM IN OUR TANKS! have a little tank in the garage, no heater only indirect natural lights for a couple hours a day and one small powerhead. temp goes up and down during a 24 period. it contains montipora sp (branching and plating), torch coral, green trachaphyllia (got moved from the reef after my regal angel developed a liking for it) and of course lots of glass anemones. the branching monti even grows in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Wow that's interesting! has it been going in the winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 na during the winter i had a small heater going plus i used my old MH. but due to the very small size i can't run the lights during the warmer month. the garage heats up quite a bit once it gets to 18 deg outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 For every hard luck story there's a good luck story! (its just that good luck stories are kept under the mattress) One day when I get a big tank...I would love to have a big fish like a regal angel. Yup, they all be different but, I thought they are pretty 'hard' on corals?!!? Cookie - What kind of corals can co-exist with a regal angel? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Cookie - What kind of corals can co-exist with a regal angel? anything thats not to green or red or fleshy, so no scolymia, trach's or blastomussa's lobophyllia's seem to be at risk too, as are clams until the little "angle" gets used to them. but i guess it depends on the fish as well. mine doesn't bother sps, xenia and leathers at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 Hmmm...starting understand why some go the fish way and some go the coral way...anywhere in the middle and someone is likely to get hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 at the moment i am ok but there are fish out there that i really like but cant get because of corals, not that i have any, so its hard do i get corals or get my fish then corals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 27, 2005 Report Share Posted December 27, 2005 get the corals first that way the tank matures and you fill it up and the fish that you ad later wont hassle them as much. i've read that its not a good idea to add a clam to a tank that already has an angel as its safer to add a angel to the tank with a clam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeroen Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Hi, i am new to the aquarium world and have been reading and following this forum over the past months to learn for the marine aquarium I am starting in the next few weeks (once I got the stand and plumbing sorted). This morning I read 'The concientious Marine Aquarist' from R. M. Fenner about angel fish. He mentioned that the Regal Angel is a nono for the aquariums there even the most dedicated experts have very poor luck trying to keep this species alive. Well done Cookie Extreem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Actually i have found them quite easy, i think if you get them eating they are fine, we have 3 week quarantine in NZ so they tend to do better as we can get them eating , in the states they go almost directly into someones tank and they dont get a chance to start feeding. More Copperband butterflys die than regal angels. over 100 CB come in the country each year and i dont see too many in tanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 You've seen one aye 'Jimmy' and Brian....(he writes with fingers and toes crossed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Dont you have one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Yup, musta been one of Reef's imports... Still looking great - once I 'wean' it off just shrimp we will all be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Hey Reef, Any clues as to what tips them over? ie what we should do to keep them happy and alive? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 http://www.aquahobby.com/marine/e_chelmon.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 easy to keep fish in a large tank with plenty of live food. the only food he eats that i feed is frozen mysis shrimp, nothing else but he picks all day while cruising the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Cookie - What kind of corals can co-exist with a regal angel? anything thats not to green or red or fleshy, so no scolymia, trach's or blastomussa's lobophyllia's seem to be at risk too, as are clams until the little "angle" gets used to them. but i guess it depends on the fish as well. mine doesn't bother sps, xenia and leathers at all. and especially mushrooms! half my 'largish' patch of mushrooms have been eaten (interestingly only the purple ones, not the blues!) by my regal. Actually i have found them quite easy, i think if you get them eating they are fine, we have 3 week quarantine in NZ so they tend to do better as we can get them eating , in the states they go almost directly into someones tank and they dont get a chance to start feeding. i agree, not too hard. so long as you know what diet the regal angel (pygoplites diacanthus) require as they cant live on flake alone (and thats assuming you are lucky enough to get them to eat dry foods) had my regal close on 6 months now and he (she?) is still fat and happy. still gets a little picked on by the tang but not nearly as much as day one. a beautiful fish, cant wait til mine gets bigger and teaches the tang a lesson or two. not recommended for tank smaller than 150 gallon and not recommended with larger angels that will outcompete it for food (according to both fenner and frische) More Copperband butterflys die than regal angels. over 100 CB come in the country each year and i dont see too many in tanks... another challenge then im getting a CB next week. perhaps my favourite of all marine fish along with the emporer angel. quite disgusting at how available and cheap they are in the USA though. http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/butter ... butterfly/ I dont mind higher prices on harder to keep species as it makes people seriously consider their investment rather than adopting the 'buy and try' approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 i have a copperband on hold at hff at the mo... its been there for about 3-4 weeks, so must be eating. i figure as long as i feed what they do, it should be ok. %username% crosses fingers........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 thats assuming you are lucky enough to get them to eat dry foods) Most regal angels will eat pellets as they love to pick it of the substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie extreme Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 another challenge then im getting a CB next week sorry i was talking in my last post (see below) about my copperband and not my regal angel. easy to keep fish in a large tank with plenty of live food. the only food he eats that i feed is frozen mysis shrimp, nothing else but he picks all day while cruising the tank its been there for about 3-4 weeks, so must be eating. i figure as long as i feed what they do, it should be ok. possible but the food it eats my not have the nutritional value it needs. copperbands will forage all day for food in your tank, so if you have plenty of worms and other little critters plus supplementing the food he eats now in the shop you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossco Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Cool. Thanks for all that feedback. I knew there was a reason for feeding all those bludgers (greeblies) for the last few months. The CBB loves lights out time cause its 'bugs out time' and time for it to really have fun poking around the rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Would a CB eat bristle worms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregb Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 Screw the corals just have fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 yes i heard they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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