reef Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Testing out a new beckett skimmer as was interested to see if the hype match the performance . The quality of the skimmer is excellent but So far 4 days of skimming has produced little. still soon as it can take a few weeks to build up the slim coat inside the skimmer, One thing i noticed about the beckett skimmer is that the bubble side is large and nowhere as small as a needle wheel skimmer. I think the results will be pretty much inline with this post on reef central http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=5d995a73a424abbf53eab2427a33342f&threadid=714773&perpage=25&pagenumber=1 will maybe test for a month and then put a Deltec in to see how much it pulls out. Will get some pics soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Then you'd have to use a formula like skimmate produced/electricity consumed = (Biggest number is best). Just a thought though, becketts are known for producing bubbles of various sizes. But if your one seems to be producing exceptionally large ones, is your pump high pressure enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 $10 to anyone who can get reef to say that its better than a deltec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 skimmate produced/electricity consumption/ price of skimmer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 the beckett skimmer is better than any deltec i win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelifaxNZ Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Sorry Brian... but Ghostface said get reef to say Typing it out doesn't count. So an audio tape of him would be proof! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 not to be a pain in the butt. if i can draw your attention to the second point in the oxford compact dictionary say • verb (says; past and past part. said) 1 utter words so as to convey information, an opinion, an instruction, etc. 2 (of a text or symbol) convey information or instructions. 3 (of a clock or watch) indicate (a time). 4 (be said) be asserted or reported. 5 (say for) present (a consideration) in favour of or excusing: he had nothing to say for himself. 6 assume as a hypothesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelifaxNZ Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 :lol: Who reads the Oxford Dictonary these days?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 the english??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Knot menie!! Alan NZKA 104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostface Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 sweet brian you win.... oh did i mention pick up only seriously though, ill pay you when the nigerian oil prince who emailed me for my bank account deposits my 47 billion dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 the beckett skimmer is better than any deltec $10 to anyone who can get reef to say that its better than a Deltec I will donate $1000 if they are better than a Deltec Going by the test the beckett skimmer is pretty average compared to a needle wheel skimmer. Beckett skimmers just dont produce small bubbles, it is all hype that they are better and mostly said by people who have not used a quality needle wheel skimmer. $10 to anyone who can get reef to say that its better than a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Yea but how much cheaper are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Yea but how much cheaper are they? About the price of a porsche. you pay for what you get. nothing is free in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 not to be skeptical but is anyone here going to believe anything says about a skimmer that isnt something he sells?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 not to be skeptical but is anyone here going to believe anything says about a skimmer that isnt something he sells?? Let me translate for you from the man himself STEVE WEAST who does not sell any skimmer. Well...I'm a hardcore reefer with a large tank and I gladly replaced my four bullet 3's with the Deltec 1004. Those PM's were a PIA and produced far less than the D1004. I have my D1004 on a timer that turns off the skimmer for a few minutes twice a day to avoid those deposits. The PM's beckett would also foul with the smallest of debris....and cleaning the becket head is always a pain. My D1004 has been running a year now without cleaning the pumps.....maybe I should put that chore on the list though. I also disliked how long it took to clean the PM's....the Deltec's top just twists off and is ready to be cleaned.......and with the self cleaning head, I don't have to do that nearly as often as I had to with the PM's not being skeptical Brian but how many quality skimmers have you used. Deltec is not for everyone due to the price. just the same as a Porsche. As i mentioned it is too soon to tell as the beckett needs more time, but so far the results as poor. I can see how i can get the bubble size smaller to get a nice foam. I am running a 3600l/h pump, well above what is recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Steve's response is interesting: Well...I'm a hardcore reefer with a large tank and I gladly replaced my four bullet 3's with the Deltec 1004. Those PM's were a PIA and produced far less than the D1004. I have my D1004 on a timer that turns off the skimmer for a few minutes twice a day to avoid those deposits. The PM's beckett would also foul with the smallest of debris....and cleaning the becket head is always a pain. My D1004 has been running a year now without cleaning the pumps.....maybe I should put that chore on the list though. I also disliked how long it took to clean the PM's....the Deltec's top just twists off and is ready to be cleaned.......and with the self cleaning head, I don't have to do that nearly as often as I had to with the PM's. I've also wondered what the becketts are like. They are meant to be easier to stabilise for really wet skimming. I'm very happy with my deltec though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 :lol: too slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 what does that have to do with anything?? i have purchased it for my personal use and i will comment on how it preformson my tank. ive seen how the deltecs work and i think they work well but i dont think many people will trust you when you say that the beckett isnt any good, i mean seriously three days and your already saying that it hasnt produced much. im wouldnt at all be surprised if you got one for the sole purpose of trying to make it look bad. heaven knows its in your best interest to have no real competition in the skimmer market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 true that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 To be fair ( on all I hope ) there is nothing to stop Reef selling any kind of skimmer he wants. If he thought Becketts were the best he'd be selling them, but he thinks Deltec is, so he sells that. However on the testing front, Reef wouldn't the best test between them be to run both on a tank at the same time until one shuts the other down? IE ones pulling crud after the other one can't get any. That would be pretty conclusive. I even offer myself as an independent observer so it could not be said the test was biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 To be fair ( on all I hope ) there is nothing to stop Reef selling any kind of skimmer he wants. If he thought Becketts were the best he'd be selling them, but he thinks Deltec is, so he sells that. I think that's true. Reef has a tank too, so naturally he is going to want to run the best equipment on it. He obviously tries a lot of different equipment and products, to see which is the best. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 To be fair ( on all I hope ) there is nothing to stop Reef selling any kind of skimmer he wants. If he thought Becketts were the best he'd be selling them, but he thinks Deltec is, so he sells that. You are on the money. i only sell the best and dont sell things like some to make money. i sell because i want hobbyist to have the best equipment available. AND my tank is proof that i know what i am talking about. If becketts are so good then i would have had one 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 dont sell things like some to make money :roll: sure you dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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