Which Skimmer

[jetskisteve]

OK heres the picture, 800L tank all softies etc about 12 fish, no room for a sump so the skimmer has to be external, did think about putting an insump skimmer in the tank off to one side... but think hang on would be better? Any thoughts?

[cracker]

Definitly a deltec hang on.

[jetskisteve]

but they only do 2 & rated to 600L

[lduncan]

Who has a 800 litre tank and no room for a sump? What's under the tank?

[cracker]

Can always run 2 x mc500 deltecs.

Im running two 1250 Turbos and they are both skimming the same amount of crap as each other...Heaps!

An mc600 would run 800 litres lightly loaded anyway.

the 600 means 600litres heavy loading I think.

Reef?

[cracker]

but they only do 2 & rated to 600L

600 litres heavy load....it would do the job I reckon. Unless you are loading up.

[cracker]

If you designed it right, you could put both in the overflow box, out of the way....Awesome.

[raeh1]

Hey I would run two

Deltec MCE600's this is due to them being able to hang on the back, and not inside the aquaium.

Also it has a space for filter stuff, like carbon, filter wool (makes a great refgium for pods etc) and rowaphos.

My tank is 200 litre with seven small fish and heaps of softies, and other stuff. It works really well, you can also add a surface skimmer to it.

Cheers

[Ira]

I think a single MCE600 would be undersized, BUT, softies aren't nearly as picky about having perfectly clean water as SPS so it should do ok.

[wasp]

For my next tank, around 500 litres, I'm going sumpless, I believe the technology now available can allow this.

I'm currently using both types of needlewheel HOB skimmers, and as far as I can tell, they are both excellent.

[Pies]

Wasp - I agree there are some good sumpless ket around at the moment. The big downside of course is all that visiable plumbing and cabeling. Still though, with some creatitivity and patience I am sure it would be easy to make a good job of it.

I have been tempted to setup a clownfish tank here it work. Something small, sub 100 litres, rock, clownfish, eay to keep corals (no sps/lps). prob a 1.5foot cube. Zooanthids and mushrooms most likley. Just not sure if it will require the hastle of setting up a sump or not, so keep me informed on your tank wasp, love to see what you come up with.

Pie

[wasp]

For what you are thinking of Pies it would be a simple enough thing to have a HOB skimmer, plus run rowa and carbon in a cannister.

At present my main tank around 280 litres total has a Deltec HOB which is doing a fine job, and my 1000 odd litre frag system has a Via Aqua turbo 1000 HOB ( a needlewheel skimmer ) also doing a fine job. The frag system is lightly stocked though, only 4 fish in it.

I'm going to wait 6 months before doing my new tank so that there will be plenty of time to think it all through, but the reason for going sumpless is that when I was thinking about the design of the overflow, I realised that the only thing I have in my current sump is the zeovit reactor, and an overflow box could be designed that would accomodate a zeovit reactor in the overflow box. Then with an HOB skimmer no need for a sump. My current tank is pretty ugly with a mess of (as you said), wires tubes and equipment, so the next ones going to be designed carefully. The main thing will be concealing the HOB skimmer, so there will be a hood, or similar, to do that.

I'm thinking that no sump will save some electricity, plus some space. Can probably get away with it as it will still be a smallish tank.

[jetskisteve]

Solid concret under the tank NO way for a sump therefore no overflow, Yes might try one MC600

[skuzza]

I was over at LFS on saturday and my mate (harold) was trying out a new hang on prisim from red sea.It is rated for 1200L tanks and seems to Go realy well.It is on the coral tank which has about 7 fish and 30 odd corals.Tank never looked better.

[reef]

I think the prism falls under the seaclone category. I question 1200L? Maybe 120L.

I don’t know if you can covert it to a kaltwasser stirrer though.

[jetskisteve]