Ira Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 My brain, got it about 2 weeks ago. It hasn't opened up since I got it and I just noticed that the whole right half looks like it's bleaching and disintegrating. Any ideas what I can do to help it or is it a lost cause? It's, obviously, sitting on the sand on the bottom of the tank, it's in a pretty still area since that's what they're supposed to like, right? Is it laying wrong? Or anything else? Lighting is 2X250 DE 14K bulbs. Test results are Nitrates: 10 Calcium: 410 KH:9.2 PH: 8.1 Magnesium: 1300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Just by looking at it I'm afraid it looks to me like it's probably history, however there's a few things you could try, but don't get your hopes up. Some of them don't like too much light, and if it came from an lfs it was likely held in less than strong light, 2x250w halide may be too much for it, so move it into a shady area with very light current. A couple of hours after lights out try feeding it with mysis shrimp. So often in lfs you see these things dying, I think it's because they never feed them. So your one is likely starving. That's about all you can do, but once they have skeleton showing like that the end is not usually too far away. No reason not to give it your best shot though, Good Luck, and keep us informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Its almost definatly a poor reaction to light/current. It can easily be saved but you will need to find it the perfect conditions straight away. I've saved a few for people in similar condition brain/trach/bubble etc. Not sure if that helps, but if you want your welcome to try it in my tank for a bit. This worked recently for a bubble coral that Suphew had, i've also recovered (mostly) a trach for him too. Good luck, nice corals. I think its a lobo. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 It's not bleached as far as I can see in the photo, so i don't think it's light related. Looks like tissue recession, which would point to more of a water problem, maybe too little flow? Your parameters look fine though. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petplanet Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I had a similiar one to your once. Had a little accident (nuff said) and most of it died off. Small areas of tissue did survive and regrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 That's interesting Pies, please share further exactly what you did for the ones you recovered, and also what you believe caused the problem in the first place. Could be some valuable info for the rest of us here. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 It looks like the tissue is definitely dying. I'll try moving it to a different spot with a bit more current and a bit more shade, hopefully the rest of it will survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Wasp - I don't have any tricks. I just pop em on the sand and cross my fingers. Layton - I've seen these corals recess just like that with too much light, the just shrink and retracts away from it. Pie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Oops thought this was a post about politicians with a topic heading like that LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reef Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I would also agree with too much light . Place in medium water flow and low light, you can move it to more light wants it has settled in. Looks like you still have most of it alive so it should come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 It looks like the tissue is definitely dying. I'll try moving it to a different spot with a bit more current and a bit more shade, hopefully the rest of it will survive. IRA, go easy on the current, less rather than more at this stage IMO, although others may know more than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Yeah, it's still in a low current spot, just a bit more of barely a breeze than only a breath of current...Nice specific terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianemone Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 i get yah ira, given the right conditions there isnt any reason why it cant come back to full health, lps seem to be able to regenerate tissue quite quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveA Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Layton - I've seen these corals recess just like that with too much light, the just shrink and retracts away from it. Pie Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Layton - I've seen these corals recess just like that with too much light, the just shrink and retracts away from it. Pie Come to think of it, I have too. I was sort of thinking more along the lines of bleaching with the light comment, it doesn't look bleached. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2005 I noticed my xenia is looking a bit shriveled too. The only thing I've done out of the usual recently is feed them bbs, that wouldn't do anything. And I dosed the tank with some magnesium chloride. About 8 teaspoons. Brought the magnesium up from if I remember right 1260-1280(holy crap, do I need 50 teaspoons to get it up to 1350?) I wouldn't think that slight of an increase in magnesium would upset the brain or the xenia? And the chloride from what I'm reading would have gone up about 40ppm, but the normal amount in seawater is about 19,000 ppm so that's practically no increase too. It's probably just a coincidence that the xenia is grumpy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 What temp are your bulbs, remember that 20K penitrates further than 10K I set my tank up with 20K at one end and 10K at the other. You may need to put it in some shade and see what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 They're 14K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 As long as your not putting to much wattage onto it I can't see light to be the problem. Have you overdone the Iodene, I don't no if you use it but it can be a problem if not used correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Nope, I don't dose iodine. Pretty much the only thing I dose is kalk and I got a bottle of old trace element mix from Animates for a couple bucks that I dose occasionally don't do it regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Probably why u have unwanted algea :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hows the brain going now? Improved? Stabilized? Still deteriorating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Probably why u have unwanted algea :-? I don't think a little squirt every month or is going to make a huge difference. I'd say it's mostly due to my topoff water and pathetic output from my skimmer. I'd get an RO and...I dunno, plumb the wastewater back into my tank, but 30 meters of hose wouldn't be cheap and it'd be a pain in the butt. But, I'm saving money for when I go to chch in case I see anything good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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