Caryl Posted December 16, 2002 Report Share Posted December 16, 2002 No no, when you die they tell you to go towards the light! (apparently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peety Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 Try adding some live plants into your bucket... nothing expensive even a couple of non toxic weeds from the garden will do. I have a separate tank outside for growing up aquatic plants and have had to add goldfish to keep my mosquito numbers down !!!! :-? :-? peety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 24, 2002 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 FINALLY !!! I have life !!!!!!!! noticed some wiggling things in one of the pails outside while I was changing water... So I took a net and started netting some... the thing is... they are bloodworms... not larvae.... or are they the same thing? when i got some larvae from redwoods last time...they looked different... these are just live bloodworms...and the all stay at the bottom of the pail.... only 1 pail has life...the other is still lifeless.... should i add some water from the pail with bloodworms to the other pail to stimulate it??? and when i netted the bloodworms to feed my fish... all the green stuff gets netted as well... and when i put the bloodworms in my tank... so does the green stuff... is this ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 Hi Richard, I get bloodworms in mine as well.... Don't know how they get there, but the fish love em Green stuff won't do any harm, but you could rinse it if you are worried. Seeding the other pail might help. Seems like someone got a good Christmas prezzie he he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted December 25, 2002 Report Share Posted December 25, 2002 n1 glad to hear Santa dropped off what you wanted most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 25, 2002 Report Share Posted December 25, 2002 I think bloodworms are the larvae of some type of fly, aren't they? So I'd bet they get there the same way mosquito larvae do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 i like to kown more about them to i have lot of them at the mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Bloodworms are the larvae of gnats and good to feed to medium to larger fishes. They are blood red - hence the name. They live in deeper water than most mosquito larvae and are hard to collect cleanly as they make little dirt cocoons they wrap themselves up in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Gnats? Hmmm...The larvae are about 50 times the size of the adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 That's what my fish book said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Maybe it's kinda like jellyfish, you get a couple dozen gnats from one worm, hehee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 I just turned one of my empty tanks into a daphnia breeding tank. Thought I'd give it a try since I've been reading about daphnia and a few things said you can do it by throwing an airstone in a tank and feeding them with yeast. So, we'll see how it goes. I threw some crushed shells in there too because they apparently grow better with some calcium added to the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 they do relly well in my fry tank i feed my fry egg york and they eat that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 I have an old plastic rubbish bin (well not that old actually says the better half!). This is filled with old tank water and the daphnia I got from Napiers auction. We have also collected heaps from my friend's livestyle block (out of her water trough). I have a huge amount of them now. All out tanks get a feed of live stuff every second day which is great. The 42 (yes I counted them) marble angel babies love them and are a source a great enjoyment watching them chase them around. They turn somersaults once locked onto one and hunting it down. Makes them grow so well!. My daphnia bin is in a place that gets only afternoon sun and from the amount in there it is doing ok. I just run a scoop around the edges and I have a couple of hundred in there. I do run them under the tap though so I can make sure they are all in the bottom of the net and easier to dump in the tank and also to pick out any other rubbish/leaves etc in there. The only one that hasnt got it yet is the large Discus. He/she just looks at them and then at me as if to say "where is the real food!" He is slowly getting it but probably only get a dozen or so while the two little discus rip around like fish possessed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Farm troughs are a great source of live food but be very careful as many also have infestations of blanket weed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 I have been very careful not to collect anything unwanted. We have been keeping it clear of all plant life (floating type anyway). Keeps my friend happy to as she doesn't have to clean out her trough! Just have to convince her to keep the hairy critters away from it now :lol: :lol: Lots of cow hairs near the bottom so we can't collect anything too deep. Hopefully the bugs don't get smart!!!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Well, no daphnia survived the night. I think maybe I fed them too much so I took out half the water and replaced it with half fresh water and half water from the pond(Get daphnia and known good water at the same time:), I also turned off the heater in the tank because the pond is about 15° and the tank was at 26° AND turned off the air pump. Might as well simplify things. The instructions for feeding yeast are to add just enough to slightly cloud the water...Really vague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 Turning off the pump was a big mistake. They suffocate quickly without air if they are overcrowded, and they prefer green water to yeast. If you test the pond water, chances are it will be quite soft and acid from decayed matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 blood and bone work well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 29, 2002 Report Share Posted December 29, 2002 When they died I had the air pump going, so they definitely didn't suffocate. But I'm trying without it because the pond definitely doesn't have an airpump. I also don't have any green water...I don't think wifey would like me throwing blood and bone in a tank in the bird's bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Bloodworms aren't quite gnat larvae: gnats bite but bloodworms are the larvae of non-biting midges. Glassworms are gnat larvae. Are daphnia bins easy to keep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Haha, Easy to keep...Umm...I've given up trying to get them to survive in the tank inside. The second try died out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 I am surprised at how quickly your daphnia died Ira. I have never had trouble breeding daphnia myself but obviously others do. Guess we are lucky we live in an area which produces plenty of them without any effort on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 People. I've become convinced that the only way to culture daphnia is to *actively* not try to. This means setting up a couple of cultures at various places around the yard, ignoring them, and then accidentily looking in at some stage while *deliberatley* doing something else... You'll find buckets of daphnia in at least one container, which will immediately disappear if you try and feed it. Mosquito larvae will appear in another container, but they'll hatch out and bite your neighbours before you get around to collecting them. This is a given. Your fish will develop a taste for them and refuse to eat anything else. Basically, it's a trap issued by the likes of Wardleys and Hikari to make you use their commercial food and give up in disgust in any other airy-fairy options books (and internet forums) may suggest. This is, of course, a joke... Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 I'm kinda surprised by it too, Caryl. I wouldn't be surprised if they just didn't do well and slowly diedoff after a few days. But I'm amazed they're dying off within 24 hours, except for a few tougher ones, I suppose. All the water in there is about 1/4 old water, 1/4 fresh water, 1/4 leftover from when I put a pinch of yeast and sugar in and 1/4 from the pond they were in. I think i'll give up for now with that, Right now I've got a bucket that I took out of the pond and put into a place that gets full sun, the pond only gets a few little spots of sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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