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Wayne

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hmmmm. the only whitebaits i've seen r at pak n save.....

but i can imagine a tank full of them would b pretty cool 8) :D

Yeah! trout pond rock! dunno about the barracuda though :D reminds me of Rainbow Springs at Rotorua....imagine a pond surrounded by native ferns......wow......and perhaps a native eel lurking about........ahhhh :D

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Wayne said...

> ... anyone keeping any native species?

> i suppose some of them would b protected n hence illegal??

It's legal to keep most NZ native species under certain circumstances.

Have a look at:

http://www.nzfreshwater.org/

Kellz said...

> I reckon a Trout pond would be really coool..

It's totally illegal to keep trout in captivity in NZ. Besides, they

don't do well under aquarium conditions, needing cool, clean,

constantly well aerated water etc.

Andrew.

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It's totally illegal to keep trout in captivity in NZ

WOW! didn't know that......is it due to commercial reasons?

i'll have to read up bout this at the MAF site....

thanks for your input Andrew...u have a mighty wealth of information :D

ermm, anyone know any good eel catching spots??

i'm still keen on getting one...alive..

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Wayne said...

> ......is it due to commercial reasons?

There's a certain level of hysteria about 'protecting the fishery'

and so forth (ie you can't sell trout, even in restuarants, there

is a ban on trout meat imports etc). What they really mean is that

they're protecting the current ability of some people to make a

lot of money off the fish. Trout and salmon etc are just another

imported pest species as far as I'm concerned. :)

They have one saving grace (other than the fact they are

considered tasty), in the frenzy to look after trout some

preservation of native fish/invertebrate habitat accidentily

occurs. This is a good thing.

Andrew.

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Wayne said...

> ......is it due to commercial reasons?

There's a certain level of hysteria about 'protecting the fishery'

and so forth (ie you can't sell trout, even in restuarants, there

is a ban on trout meat imports etc). What they really mean is that

they're protecting the current ability of some people to make a

lot of money off the fish. Trout and salmon etc are just another

imported pest species as far as I'm concerned.

Andrew.

Actually it isnt really hysteria. NZ is not affected by whirling disease (there are other parasites and viruses that do similar damage though) like many other countries. YES people are trying to protect their income.....wouldnt you? Relaxing the regulations and allowing trout to be sold in restaurants would create a multi million dollar poaching market, and access to waterways would eventually be stopped completely

Whirling disease is an important factor as it is a parasite that attacks the nervous and cartilage system of trout. I do not know whether it affects other species that are not in the salmonoid family but you never know. Something else to note. Whirling disease

Quote from www.whirlingdisease.org

"Whirling disease" is a disease of Salmonid fish (trout, salmon, whitefish) caused by a microscopic parasite known as Myxobolus cerebralis. This tiny parasite has a fairly complicated life cycle which involves two hosts; a small worm(tubifex, sludge ) that lives on the bottom of a stream or other body of water, and a fish. The fish becomes infected after a form of the parasite (the TAM stage) emerges from the worm and enters the water column. The parasite finds a fish, attaches to the fish and penetrates the skin. The parasite eventually finds its way to the cartilage of the fish where it matures into the mature whirling disease spore. It stays there until the fish dies, releasing spores into the water, which ultimately are ingested by the worms and the life cycle starts all over.

There is a lot of information available online about whirling disease and trout and salmon importation.

Who is to say that NZ native fish would not be affected???????

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i was at the trout place near turangi over easter and had a gander in the tanks that hold the small fish. a couple had that telltale crooked tail. maybe it was maybe it wasnt, but i recognised it from reading a book years ago, maybe it was...

ps i am currently in contact with a joker in wgtn doc who will let me know if i need a permit to keep natives (thats what rings my bells). they are discovering heaps of new ones at the moment too, exciting stuff! NIWA have an awesome page on freshwater fish in nz as well. that nzfreshwaterorg site is very very good too.

IF YOU WANT A GOOD EELING SPOT

go to QE2 park (mackays crossing) where the trams are (or were). right to the far car park. there youll find a slow deep tannin stained creek that has some big mother eels in it. i have been considered a fairly tough mean kiwi male at times in my life, but after catching some of the bohemoths that live in that creek, the thought of falling in gives me a serious case of the s***s. im not kidding, they are very very scary.

have fun

Mike C

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