camtang Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I would have to agree with David on how complex it is, I will try and take a photo of mine. I think it is pretty simple and works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I wouldn't worry about bubble traps for a FW tank, probably wouldn't even bother with them for a saltwater if you have a good sized sump. Getting rid of that will simplify a good chunk, the rest looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 What do you mean by laundry bags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnadian Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 A porous extremely fine mesh bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Where do you get them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flymike Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Checo out my thread mate, DavidR swayed me on keeping the sump and improving its design. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=65300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Where do you get them? Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0282591117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0282591117 Mitre10 have them as laundry bags for about $7 if you don't want to order from ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Thanks redracer.What are peoples thoughts on these http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/p ... atid=18358 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 If the tank is empty find someone competent with drilling glass and get it drilled IMO. Those HOB overflows do work, but always riskier than drilled, and not sure how quiet they are either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Thanks David I'll get it drilled then.what piping should I use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I usually use PVC waste pipe, good range of fittings and not too badly priced if you talk nicely to the guys at Plumbing World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 What diameter of piping do you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnadian Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 If the tank is empty find someone competent with drilling glass and get it drilled IMO. Those HOB overflows do work, but always riskier than drilled, and not sure how quiet they are either. With a small mod they can be completely silent (and I am VERY discerning when it comes to noises, trust me...): Bottom pipe drains under full siphon so no noise, top pipe is emergency drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 What diameter of piping do you use. The right diameter for the amount of water you're trying to flow and the way your overflow is set up. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... Flow-Rates http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... Viewing%29 https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=herbi ... 8Qez44H4CQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Ok so I'll probably use 50mm pvc pipes.I showed dad this video to show him how a sump works . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 Also do you get the holes drilled the same size of the pipes or do you get it drilled 1mm or so bigger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted July 30, 2014 Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 I used 50mm pipe for my 2000L tank, flowing 8-9000LPH, I think that may be a little overkill for your tank. Get your bulkheads and measure the diameter of the thread before you drill anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted August 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 I'm thinking of doing something like this Is this pump any good? http://www.hollywoodfishfarm.co.nz/deta ... 000/m/962/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Depending on how you stock the tank (and from your posts you will have some med- large fish), I don't think that you will have enough filtering capacity with that design. I am setting up a similar volume aquarium to yours and have built a 130 litre sump for it. I can upload a pic if you like. I would listen to people like David and get someone to drill the tank and make a sump, just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverdollarboy2 Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Depending on how you stock the tank (and from your posts you will have some med- large fish), I don't think that you will have enough filtering capacity with that design. I am setting up a similar volume aquarium to yours and have built a 130 litre sump for it. I can upload a pic if you like. I would listen to people like David and get someone to drill the tank and make a sump, just my opinion. Thanks redracer,I would like a pic of your sump please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Not completely finished but you get the idea, water comes in, through 3 layers of poret, then polisher, then over baffle through bio noodles.(middle chamber where poret off cuts are now) I have this setup in my basement with the tank on the other side of the wall, above left. My tank is drilled with 3 drains and 1 return, all 25mm Hansen fittings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 That looks like a good set up, but I hope you've left room for the water to flow above the Poret if it clogs, overflowing sumps suck! How many LPH is the pump? The return line looks pretty thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redracer77 Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 That looks like a good set up, but I hope you've left room for the water to flow above the Poret if it clogs, overflowing sumps suck! How many LPH is the pump? The return line looks pretty thin. I think I have enough room, the water line is about 4cm below the top in the mech area, then have about 40-50l of space to take the excess when the pump is off. I also considered drilling an overflow at the top for potential overflows or overfills. The return is 25mm, pump is 6500lph but with head height and probably fit a ball valve will have about 3500 - 4000 lph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I think I have enough room, the water line is about 4cm below the top in the mech area, then have about 40-50l of space to take the excess when the pump is off. I also considered drilling an overflow at the top for potential overflows or overfills. That sounds good, but what I was wondering is if the height of the Poret is lower than the edge of the sump, so that if the foam completely block up the water will just flow over into the next chamber. You probably want the Poret 3-4cm below the rim of the tank so it won't overflow if the foam completely blocks up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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