v8jaggy8 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Hey everyone. So I am starting up a 20L tank for a Dwarf Puffer but want to create an amazing aquascape of plants and what not for the fish to hide in and play. It is a 350mm L x 220mm W x 260mm H Blue Planet Classic 20 Has a standard 5W CFL in it Runs a 3 stage filter with carbon, bioballs and ceramic noodles My questions are as follows: With what I have in terms of lighting and filtration what plants am I able to grow? What fertilisers will I need to get going? Will I be able to grow plants in sand? (I want to have white aragonite sand as it won't harm the puffer if he decides to burrow) Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-obstacle Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 Ambulia springs to mind. That stuff will grow anywhere and it looks good / is good to hide in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 If I remember correctly, aragonite sand is going to raise your pH. Use play sand or similar, this is fine for growing most plants. First you need to decide what you want your tank to look like, pictures from the internet are good. Then decide if you want to go the high tech route, CO2, strong lights, ferts, or low tech, moderate lighting and few additional ferts. With your current setup, you'd be restricted to moss, java fern, Anubias and similar slow growing plants. And in regards to the filter, ditch the carbon for a mechanical media such as sponge or filter wool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Sorry should've added that there is a piece of filter wool in the filter too. I want something like this Or something like this Would prefer to go low tech but what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think that high tech, while more expensive and challenging, is worth the reward. Your biggest expense would be CO2 and biggest challenge would be hardscape but I'm more than happy to guide you through both of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Yea I have seen your two major projects on here and thats what has inspired me to try a planted tank. I would prefer to go down the low tech cheap way, purely because funds are very limited. I understand that low tech will most likely take a lot longer but I'm prepared to wait it out. What is the best way of going about starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 My preferred method is starting on paper with layout sketches and equipment lists. As far as setting the actual tank up goes, start with substrate and hardscape and make sure these are absolutely PERFECT before you even think about planting. Also, ask as many questions and research as much as you can. I'm glad I've been of inspiration to you 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 What are some tips you can give me in terms of correct layout of a tank? As in do large objects need to be at the front or back etc? And yea I am really loving that newest one you have a thread about any updates on that one while we are on the subject?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I'll post some links to aquascaping articles tonight when I get home but a Google search of "the golden ratio" and "creating perspective in aquascaping" should yield some good articles. The main thing is choosing suitably sized and shaped rocks for your scape, most people choose rocks which are too small and/or too boring. It's not doing too badly, I'll add pics this evening perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 It is unlikely that the ground cover plants in both tanks would grow without hi tech. You would have to select "low tech plants" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Ambulia, crypts and narrow leaf java fern would be good in a low tech tank, I have these and they work well. You could put the ambulia at the back, crypts down the middle and/or front and the java fern on a rock or piece of wood as a feature. In a small tank the narrow leaf java looks more in proportion than ordinary java fern as the leaves are thinner. You'll need to trim and replace the ambulia from time to time but it will give you some height and hiding places. They'll also hide under the crypt leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 There used to be a small Crypt called nevillii nevillii around many moons ago. If someone had some hidden away it would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Ambulia was definitely on my list of plants and I had thought about crypts are they easy to grow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 For me, crypts have been fairly hit or miss. In some tanks they flourish, in others they fail. It's worth a shot though, your tank sounds ideal for them. Here's the articles I was talking about earlier. Aquatic Layout Guide- Rules of Composition 7 principles Elements of Aquascaping Note: it's a shame I have to link off site for this content but I just haven't gotten around to writing my own articles just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Thanks for linking them Sam You should get your stuff sorted and write the articles yourself nothing like having a quick go to guide for all this sort of thing. I have always like Java Fern as well. Are there any Micro Swords that would do well in a low tech tank like mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 tenellus tenellus will do OK if it's in the middle of the tank right under the light but it isn't a fast grower in my experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 More suitable for Hi Tech. I have never kept the microswords but they may be suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Would something like this be achievable in my tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 I reckon if you get a decent layer under the front substrate (aquabasis works for me) and a slightly more powerful light (Philips 20W if it fits) then you'll be able to grow hairgrass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 How much is a bag of the aquabasis worth Sam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 The last bag I bought was around 50 dollars. Your pic is Hi tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ok so looks like to get my own way of having an amazing set up tank I need to go Hi Tech What exactly do I need to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Li@m Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 How much is a bag of the aquabasis worth Sam? $32 To go high tech you basically need: Medium to high lighting, co2 and dose ferts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8jaggy8 Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 What is the best way of rigging up a C02 kit? If I go down this track I think I will go up to a 60cm tank and get a better effect. Probably 65L with a 20W PL bulb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted May 27, 2013 Report Share Posted May 27, 2013 If it's 60L or under you could probably get away with a sodastream CO2 unit on this sized tank, anything larger and it's better to fork out for a full sized cylinder. You'd need a sodastream cylinder, adaptor, CO2 regulator with solenoid, tubing, diffuser etc so you're looking at around $160-$190 to get all of that sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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