lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I have a FW tank that's currently waiting on fish and put about 1/4 ts of brine shrimp eggs into there, just to see what would happen. I wasn't really expecting much because brine shrimp need SW to hatch, but now I have a whole bunch of brine shrimp in my FW tank. Will they survive long term, or will the FW kill them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I did not know that they could hatch in FW.... well you learn something new every day unless you have very hard water.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Shouldn't be particularly hard. I haven't pH tested but this area is usually just above 7, and the tank is planted and has dw so I would imagine it's slightly soft and acidic. I really wasn't imagining anything happening, but I though a few dead eggs would at least turn into ferts for the plants if nothing else! Also hatched some in salt water (1.026sg) and they were in the dark with no water movement - this one wasn't intentional, my bubbler died and the cat almost knocked over the bottle they were in, so bf put them in the pantry to keep them safe. Of course, the hatch rates aren't good as usual but seeing as I expected zero, it's kind of amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 what brand of egg??? might try it myself (no fry worthy atm,, but maybe soon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 what brand of egg??? might try it myself (no fry worthy atm,, but maybe soon) I really have no idea, actually. I've had them for at least 3 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 are you sure they are BBS and nos tiny cockroaches???? pic or it didn't happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 are you sure they are BBS and nos tiny cockroaches???? pic or it didn't happen Gosh. Ok. I'll see if I take pics of them. They're pretty teeny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 use a small camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Alright. Possibly the worst pic ever of BBS. iphone pic, but I've had the filter off for an hour or so so the eggs could settle. Those floaties are the BBS. The brownish lump in the background is a baby ramshorn about 2mm long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 wow, I agree, the iPhone sucks.... hrmmm.... im assuming someone else will weigh in here but untill then Brine shrimp hatching solutions Would you believe fresh-water brine shrimp? This sounds like a contradiction in terms but it works. I tried hatching both decapsulated and regular brine shrimp eggs in water without salt and discovered that they hatch just fine in plain, unsalted water, as long as there is some baking soda added to incease the PH enough to help an enzyme they release to dissolve a hole in their cysts. The advantage of doing so is that when they are added to the fry tank, they don't experience a large osmotic shock from going form salt to fresh water. The brine shrimp hatched in fresh water tend to last longer in the fry tank, which seems to confirm the advantage. I also tried hatching brine shrimp in water with no baking soda (used to bring the PH up into the 8-9 point range). It didn't work. The high alkalinity is needed to help them dissolve part of their egg case. Decapsulating does not help. from http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/brineshrimp.htm the part about them lasting longer seems interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Hmm. It's possible the pH is much higher than I thought, but I doubt it. Might grab a pH test kit tomorrow and see what it is just for interest's sake. I'm hopefully going to get them to grow a bit bigger before fish get in here. They can hunt them down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 sea monkeys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 lol, add some baby guppies, then you get twice the fun I normally use the Aqua one test to get a fair idea then use the API brand to get an accurate result.\ also make sure you wash the tubes out properly before use as the salts from the water drying inside the tubes can alter results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 How long do they take to grow up? Will the stuff in the tank be enough for them to feed on if I want them to grow into adults, or will I have to sup feed them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I am one of the disappointed many.... mainly by the fact the woman had no boobies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 I had some when I was a kid. If I remember, the water was still. Can't remember what you had to feed them, but it was some powder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 you gonna have to find some food for them if you want them to grow into big strong monkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 they can be trained?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 yes, to follow a light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgustipated Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 yes, to follow a light LOL! here i was playing fetch and roll over with brine shrimp in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueether Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 yes, to follow a light My natives do that, well they will chase a laser pointer like a cat will :sml1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 movie or it didn't happen! :spop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsmith Posted November 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 My bumblebee gobies went crazy for the newly hatched brine shrimp, but it would be nice to provide them with something a bit bigger. In order to make them bigger, I'll need to feed them. Any ideas what to feed them? I was thinking of starting a green water culture, what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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