Scarletmonuka Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Hey when i finally get round to setting up a tank again i was thinking of having 6 astatotilapia brownae (brown haps) with a couple or 3 male Fryier Haps (electric blues) and a couple or 3 either electric yellows or red jewels or maybe both.. looking at have a tank round the 300 to 400 Litre tank. just curious as to what people think of this combination or any susgestions. this will be early next year before i even think about getting it set up cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godly3vil Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 From what I know all those cichlids prefer being in a colony type of group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Jewels will probably be too aggressive especially if you happen to get a pair. keeping just one can help unless you want a couple of fat evil little beauties (and their million fat evil offspring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 the others should be able to give the jewels a good run I would suspect. and you would hope they would learn not to go near there breeding pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 I dunno, jewels have a pretty vicious set of dentures compared to the lake cichlids, can do a fair amount of damage (especially when larger, they can rip up a hand pretty quick). anyways, they prefer different water conditions as they are not rift lake cichlids (although they will tolerate most things) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 the whole idea is to get something that will contrast with the colouring of the male blues and the brown haps... i know electric yellows will do this and thats also why i was thinking red jewels... i've never kept jewels and know nothing about them. (i know nothing about most fish to be honest) are there any other sugestions as to what i could put? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 You need to decide either with the africans you mentioned which will work together but in numbers or the red jewels by themselves. At breeding time the red jewels will terrorize and kill the entire tank sometimes including their breeding mate. Plus the red jewels prefer a lower ph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 there are heaps of colours available, try the tangerine (orange) zebras, they are a nice bright orange/pink depending on the supplier, maybe some orange peacocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 You need to decide either with the africans you mentioned which will work together but in numbers or the red jewels by themselves. At breeding time the red jewels will terrorize and kill the entire tank sometimes including their breeding mate. Plus the red jewels prefer a lower ph. ok so i didn't know jewels weren't africans. 6 brown haps ain't enough? i don't wan't any female electric blues as i wont really be able to tell the difference between the female brown haps and female fryier haps will i? can i have a decent group of male fryier without them getting too agresssive towards eachother? there are heaps of colours available, try the tangerine (orange) zebras, they are a nice bright orange/pink depending on the supplier, maybe some orange peacocks i've been told in the past that keeping fryier haps with peacocks id not a good idea as the male haps will kill male peacocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F15hguy Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 Jewels are Africans, just not rift lakes, they live in slower moving rivers in west africa ranging from guinea to liberia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 and you can mix fryeri and aulonocara (peacocks) together. i have one specices of fryeri (black fin) with my aul.stuartgranti and another species of fryeri (red fin) mixed with aul.banschi. all live happily together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 and you can mix fryeri and aulonocara (peacocks) together. i have one specices of fryeri (black fin) with my aul.stuartgranti and another species of fryeri (red fin) mixed with aul.banschi. all live happily together. Ok i will keep in mind.. are the red fin fryier easy to get hold of in nz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 not to sure. ive sold about two dozen on trademe lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 !drool: oh wow.. you have fry for sale very often? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 oh and the other one i have been thinking about is the Aurora Cichlid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Yip. just need to grow next batch up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted September 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 how far away are we talking? and a cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudge Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 the brown haps are from lake victoria, a rift lake but not the same lake as the fryeri, yellows aurora etc which are from malawi. Also the browns can be pretty aggressive and nippy. I don't think you will have a lot of success keeping a bunch of male fryeri together. It is usually recommended to keep single males only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropheus Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 I have 6 male & 4 female fryeri (black fins) in with my peacocks and NEVER have problems. As for the red fin fryeri they live happly as a pair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudge Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 If you have a breeding group of brown haps with multiple fryeri males you may get crossbreeding, fryeri are pretty notorious for crossbreeding epecially if you have a tank full of males. If you could get 3 or 4 fryeri males to live together peacefully it would look cool though, i have read that they tend to stay well coloured even if they are the subdominant fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 would the two diffrent species from diffrent lakes readily cross like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudge Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I would say that there is a chance any fish will crossbreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarletmonuka Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 If you have a breeding group of brown haps with multiple fryeri males you may get crossbreeding, fryeri are pretty notorious for crossbreeding epecially if you have a tank full of males. If you could get 3 or 4 fryeri males to live together peacefully it would look cool though, i have read that they tend to stay well coloured even if they are the subdominant fish That would be the plan (a few fryier males without them killing eachother)... changed my plan really since seeing the pic of the redfin fryier. Looking at getting some off of tropheus when they ready and having a main group of them. and maybe having a few electric yellows with em.. either that or thinking peacocks if i can have them colour up. only male peacocks colour up right? females stay grey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camtang Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 a guppie with a oscar? :slfg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudge Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 yep only the males have colour, trophs red fins look stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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