katrina.hughes Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hey all, I have a black moore which I suspect has dropsey - still has a ravenous apetite and looking reasonably perky, aside from a very swollen belly and when seen from above displays the pine cone effect which I know is associated with dropsey. Was just wondering if extreme constipation also causes this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Not normally. It is not a female full of eggs is it? The swelling tends to be more to one side when it is eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrina.hughes Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 No unfortunately... not breeding age. Was hoping it was constipation :-( easier to fix! It's still alive and happy after 5 days now since I noticed the swelling, usually my experience with dropsy is that they die within a 3 day period. Any remedies you know for dropsy or is it a no hoper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 It is caused by water retention through kidney failure from a number of possible causes and I have never seen it successfully treated once it gets to the pine coning. Often the damage may have been done through bad conditions in early life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katrina.hughes Posted November 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Yea, havn't had much luck with black moores... they don't last as long as their orange friends - I guess there's not much I can really do for him now, poof fella. Got the epsom salt in but hasn't really helped all that much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 That may reduce the water retention but does not fix the cause of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenda.ayla Posted October 4, 2012 Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 We have now treated 3 this year for dropsy, 1st year we have ever had it and has only been with the orandas. 2 of them got it a few months back, treated them inside with epson salts and a little pimafix and feeding them boiled shelled peas, 1 pulled through after about a month of treatment and is now back in the pond outside, the other died. Then a couple of weeks ago another got it, we are trying the same treatment and so far is looking better so fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenda.ayla Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Pulled another through now with the same treatment, back in the pond as if nothing happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Then I would assume it is not dropsy. Moors do tend to be more likely to drop dead than the more hardier comets and "normal" shaped goldfish. The shorter bodies cause digestion issues. Have you changed what you are feeding? I find some pellets and sticks (usually the really cheap ones) worse than others for swelling more once wet and causing temporary bloating until the pellet is fully processed through the system. Also, does it happen more at the beginning of spring/summer? It could be they have not fully come out of their winter semi-hibernation so try feeding porridge for a while (uncooked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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