livingart Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 got brought in a leopard gecko with a tail problem was told last shed 2 - 3 weeks ago it shed and after it seemed to have around 10mm of end of tail was a red colour this shed the last 35mm of tail is a red colour and looks like a fresh graze the original 10mm is now black and looks like it may be dry gangrene anyone else had experience with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 If it looks like gangrene I would be tempted to frighten it until it drops its tail. Might not look so good but will be alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Is it a male that had a disagreament with the fella down the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 it is a female have dealt with dry gangrene in igs and water dragons but not in gecko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 might pay to give it a bit of peroxide treatment?have to dig my book out and see what it says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 good idea i had thought of iodine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 any ideas perpin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perpin Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 How is it looking now? Can you take a picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 the gecko is not with me getting oral antibiotics at the moment it looks like the top layer of skin has been peeled from the last 1/3rd of the tail ie: it looks raw gecko is acting normally and eating well local vet has contacted auk zoo vet and is following their recommendations they have said it may be bacterial and amputation may be required i see it again on sunday so will take picks then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 ok so peroxide and iodine work by being cytotoxic peroxide is a bleaching agent what they do is decimate the cell structure they contact and then you hope that natural cells and bacteria in healthy quanities return if feeding abs then also try gutloading with probiotics abs will strip the gut lining and stop absorption of micro nutrients also increase protein content of food along with vitamins D E C A to help with wound healing You could use ionised silver...NOT coloidal silver I have had success with a couple of Tuts that have that weird flesh rot that they get on their feet of late with good ol plane and simple UV these animals were young...about 7 or 8 and there were 6 that had that red rash and scally lumpy rot that they get like toe jam that spreads up their legs...you know what I mean....anyway I simply built a wire grill that a box could sit over then I placed a UV lamp under the gril put the tut on the grill and left it there for about 10 mins x2 a day. Watch grill doesnt get hot but animals within UV range. UV kills the bugs. Drys the wound. and promotes synsthesis of they above Vitamins that help promote wound healing. UV in non UV dependant herpts in not that big a deal for this short a period. Do not re hydrate the black area as this will cause the areas to rot as there may be inadequate blood supply to heal a necrosed area. This may be a saving grace as no blood in = no blood out therefore no cytotoxins reaching the kidneys to cause them to fail. The UV treatment is slow but worth a go. failing that lop it off as per Alan ? as if sheding then ? shed is incomplete and constricture at tail is causing tail rot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perpin Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 If it is bacterial and does not show signs of healing relatively soon after taking antibiotics I would think the best course of action is to amputate to avoid further infection. Is the affected area quite dry or is it moist and weepy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 thanks nav it appears dry perpin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perpin Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I personally would rather amputate the tail rather than risk losing the leo and let it finish the course of antibiotics to ensure all possible bacteria is dealt with. If the tail has turned black and is dry the chance of it eventually falling off is very high. If it becomes moist and weepy then the infection is likely getting worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 if it becomes moist and weepy then it may be a sign of spreading infection for sure. But it may also be a sign of returning vascularity depending on many things. In infection it is true to make a dics of your self ( same for a Fracture actually) Discolouration inflamation (heat swelling redness and exudate) circulation and sensation ( pain numbness etc) I in saying this would still treat area as viable until proven otherwise until a point. A simple cut will tell you if tissue sub integimentry is viable. Another thing you could try is QID chlorhex or saline soaks but again risk as adding mositure to potentially non viable tissue Is there an odour at all? Navarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 outcome was good lep growimg mew tail tip quite quickly antibiotics cleared up infection, tail tip dried up then we removed dried up piece after treatment the owner noticed shiny surface on skin around nose area no sound from lungs gave acidophilus and bifidus as thought it may have been a thrush infection from after antibiotics cleared up after next shed thanks for the ideas and thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 well done and good luck guess thing to do is keep and eye on area at next shed to make sure no skin encircling the area well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Thank you all for helping me with my leopard gecko she has how fully recovered and 1/4 if her tail has grown back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 good to see you on board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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