reef Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 did not know you are the pricing police. So many people give up beause they do it cheap because some beginner told them it is easy, how many animals have to die before you wake up, they are not deposable items. No doubt in the near future they will not be able to be collected. best to do it correctly from day one, Do the research. Small tanks are cheaper to set up but harder to look after due to the small volume of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 One thing that can effect is the price, is what are you wanting to keep? ie Fish only, fish with corals (soft corals/hard corals) Are you near a clean source of natural seawater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Really, since when are prices dropping? best advice is if you can't afford it then don't start a marine tank, Budget tanks never do well in the long run. that isn't necessarily so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 ok ok no arguments its alllllll just information gathering at this stage :slfg: :slfg: <-----White flags, honest. Not sure on what fish I want to keep, My problem is that I love the look of tropicals, simple, attractive, colourful with plants and whatnot, and you can keep the inside of the tank simple and looking how you want, to a theme i suppose. The reef tanks ive seen so far consist of alot of brown algae and rocks with brownish plants on them. - Before anyone jumps there are exceptions to the rule - many i hope!! I want the corals, but im not sure what defines "hard" as opposed to "soft", as I love plants - just never had any luck with the tropical ones (lack of light and im stubborn - want a saltwater tank, so tropical gets pushed aside slightly) However, I have decided that a marine tank is DEFINATELY what I want to do, I just have to wait for my wedding to be over first (jan 2013) sooo... plenty of time to study, investigate, and plan. So far the plan is to NOT buy the Rio 400, as I really like the Juwel Vision 450, I would re design the cabinet (with my uncle whos a cabinet maker) and reinforce it with a steel frame like on this thread : http://www.nzmas.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8344 Then I plan on putting a 100(ish) litre sump in the bottom of it, with as much live rock as possible (because i want to keep the display simple) and the parts I need (which im not sure on yet) Skimmer - What type, size, etc? Heater - What temperature, size, how many? What else?? In the hood I want to double the lights, (im thinking 4x t5 HO's, and a moon light) In the tank I want the wavemakers, and an airhose (if i have to have a airhose in there?) Now, ive read that the main reason for live rock in the display as opposed to in the sump is for fish to hide, sleep, and corals to attatch to. Is this true? Is there anyone on here who has the same idea as me? simple marine, that has lots of corals, and lots of fish, without a cluttered tank? - Pics please!! Any feedback or information on ANYTHING salt water related is extremely appreciated, success stories, failure stories, personal experiences that people have learnt from, so I know what im looking at as / if it happens. Another question, sump overflows, how do they work and why do they work? Should the sump not be deep enough to accomodate for excess water, should there be a power failure? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted July 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 One thing that can effect is the price, is what are you wanting to keep? ie Fish only, fish with corals (soft corals/hard corals) Are you near a clean source of natural seawater? No, unfortunately im in Rotorua, and I dont trust the lake to boat in, let alone swim in, let alone source water for my fish tank from! As for the fish as I partly mentioned in my above post, I want a few clownfish, starfish (the blue ones) and maybe some shrimp, but im not sure what I can keep with what, my dream fish would be a lionfish, but im assuming they are illegal to keep in NZ, and certainly not while im on my first tank! I see photos of fish, but have no idea what they are so I cant name them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentone Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I'll post on your other topic rather than this one :thup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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