Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hi, After only just realizing there's a planted section to this site, I thought I'd ask what sort of plants I could potential keep in a stock juwel vision 180, more or less just with the stock lighting, and a substrate based fertilizer. I'm lead to believe that they come with two 39W t5's. While I'd like to keep crypts really, I'd be interested to see if things like glosso or stargrass would survive/grow in these conditions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwan Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Just did a google on that tank, and looks like 55cm high? I'm not too familiar with t5's but I think you might struggle with glosso (horrible plant anyway :lol: ). Stargrass should be fine, it's pretty undemanding. Dwarf sagittaria would be sweet but can get quite high for a carpeting plant. There's the dwarf echinodorus species but I'm not sure how much light they require. Other plants like java fern/ bolbitis/ anubias species/ mosses etc will all work well, along with many types of stem plants/swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The lighting will not be enough to successfully get a carpet of Gloss but will definately be good for crypts. Are you wanting any particular Crypt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Anything that you suggest? Would be looking at selection of colours red/green/brown but other than that no idea. Ok, what about something like zealandia micro sword? As a carpet plant that is, I'm not that keen on hairgrass (now thats horrible stuff) and the dwarf sag that I've got will be too high for a real carpet as such, might use that as a mid ground plant though What about lotus plants? Or is that more of a discus tank thing? =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The lights on the juwels are fantastic. Evil_Elmo on here did grow glosso under standard lights, but he did say that it was much better after the powerglo upgrade. Don't get discouraged though; lights are the one thing that won't limit what you can grow in that particular tank as most plants will be quite happy with them. Crypts will do wonderfully if you add some JBL balls to the substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Can you do a powerglo upgrade? I thought it didn't fit or are you meaning add two more tubes? IF so, how do you go about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The GLO hoods fit perfectly if you sacrifice one of those bendable plastic covers. So get rid of the cover and add a light hood, and it's as easy as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Get rid of the juwel hood? :-? But I like the clean look it gives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 No, you keep the juwel hood and remove the plastic lid that sits at the back and add the GLO hood in place of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Hmmm, that might be worth it then. Thanks for that. Now I've just got to see if its worth spending that to grow glosso... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Just for glosso? Nah, its over rated. Well I got bored of it pretty quickly. :slfg: But try it out and see if you like it. There a literally thousands of plants that you can have, so don't be afraid to experiment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasi Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Dont listen to him :rotf: Glosso is an awesome plant. What better is that it is a native. It is very demanding though of light and will head toward the surface as soon as it is not getting enough. I grow it both inside and outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Oh, just a thought - whats it like with loaches? Will it get uprooted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 What sort of loaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Mainly dwarf chains (hoping to get the numbers up to 12-15 again) about 5 angelicus and a few golden zebras? Anything really. Also looking at some ram pairs, bristlenoses etc etc Although I'd love whatever pleco is in your profile pic too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 this is my vision 450 guppy tank running 4x54watt T5 sorry for the bad pic....this was taken after the last monday earthquake.....lost a crap load of water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Man, thats awesome - what other plants are in there? Cant quite make them out sorry, the one on the right hand side in a loop, is that glosso growing tall? And I know how you feel, getting a little tired of having to clean up the floor all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 mostly glosso but have some stargrass, ambulia and random swords yes thats just glosso growing tall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Arrgh, thats got me thinking that I could be doing higher light plants. lol. So much choice, cant stand it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 have you seen the vision 180 at animates papanui? thats on stock lighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Elmo, That's some impressive glosso you have growing there... what type of T5's are you running? Also, what ferts, and any CO2? Cheers, Fraser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 tank has been setup for about 6 weeks now, dosed flourish excel for the fist 2 weeks until i ran out, now i dont dose with anything i run a Pressurized co2 about 2-3 bubbles a second, lights are 2 factory juwel tubes plus 2 juwel colour tubes....i just used whatever i had at home i filled up the tank again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ismart120 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Brave of you to fill up the tank again just yet =P I was in there yesterday but people were looking at it so I didn't get a good look - from what was there it seems very similar to how I want to set up mine when I get it, with lots of neons or cardinals etc. Oh weel, just another excuse to go back... How long did your Co2 last? And what sort was it? Not the fluval 88g by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserNZ Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 tank has been setup for about 6 weeks now, dosed flourish excel for the fist 2 weeks until i ran out, now i dont dose with anything i run a Pressurized co2 about 2-3 bubbles a second, lights are 2 factory juwel tubes plus 2 juwel colour tubes....i just used whatever i had at home i filled up the tank again Nice, I would keep up with the flourish if you can afford to. I stopped dosing mine and my glosso just went all yellow but I don't have Pressurized co2 yet, just DIY stuff. I'm looking forward to finally getting Pressurized co2 sorted as I really want my tank looking like that! How long did it take to carpet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_elmo Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Brave of you to fill up the tank again just yet =P I was in there yesterday but people were looking at it so I didn't get a good look - from what was there it seems very similar to how I want to set up mine when I get it, with lots of neons or cardinals etc. Oh weel, just another excuse to go back... How long did your Co2 last? And what sort was it? Not the fluval 88g by any chance? there setup looks good, the big school of cardinals looks awesome i'm running a 5kg bottle of co2 which lasts about a year for me Nice, I would keep up with the flourish if you can afford to. I stopped dosing mine and my glosso just went all yellow but I don't have Pressurized co2 yet, just DIY stuff. I'm looking forward to finally getting Pressurized co2 sorted as I really want my tank looking like that! How long did it take to carpet? only took a month to do a full carpet....flourish is great stuff but this tank seems pretty stable without it and i save myself $125 for a bottle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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