the new guy Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I went shopping last night and finally got a tank i can set up, well almost setup. I went and bought a 65L glass tank, and the shop was selling some used canister filters so i grabbed one of those too. Lighting, i havnt got that far yet. ive talked to a couple of people about different kind of lights. i would love to get some LEDs but in most cases that is the more expensive. im working on a skimmer. the pet shop is trying to get me one of those... anyway i have added some pictures of the stuff i bought. i would love some feedback, and opinions. Now i have some pictures if anyone is intrested, but i cant figure out how to add pictures. can anyone help? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 www.imageshack.com once the photo is loaded, right click on it and go to properties, highlight and copy the image's url. Then once at the forum and making a new post click "Img" and then paste the image url into the slot and waaaaaalaaaaaaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Or me the photos 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 i find photo bucket good, what pet shop is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 canister may not be your best option sump allows for more volume in the system what are you doing, fish only or reef? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Are you going to get rock? what about flow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 looks great what are you going to do about flow? i agree with LA what type of system are you planning to run? what about a air driven skimmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the new guy Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 the sand idea is still on the shelf, im still thinking weather or not to put it in. for the flow i am going to get a wave maker off trademe. i do almost all my shopping at redwood aquatics. i rather love going in there and taking a look. my plan was to have a pair of clowns, a shrimp, and 1 or 2 hardy corals. Im going to get the Reef Octopus NS-80 NANO Skimmer. what kinda filter would you recommend? i have another small tank i can use as a sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 a sump would be best, as you can put the skimmer down there, out of sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the new guy Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 canister may not be your best option sump allows for more volume in the system what are you doing, fish only or reef? what filter would you recommend as a replacement of the canister filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 sump is always better than a canister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 No cannister for filtration, skimmer would be better. You could put Phosphate remover in the canister, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 A shallow sand bed would also be good, acts as natural filter media once it gets established Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 so does live rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the new guy Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 so does live rock i have been looking for some, not having much luck though. No cannister for filtration, skimmer would be better. You could put Phosphate remover in the canister, though. so i could possibly run the canister filter if i was on a budget, with some mods? i have a small tank but i know no one who can help me design and convert it too a sump, maybe someone here could help me? i am getting a small skimmer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 It would be cheaper and more beneficial to use a sump. If you wanted you could use the cannister filter on the sump to act as the return pump so you don't have to buy an individual pump, This is were the phosphate remover could also be incorporated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayne Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 trademe has quite a lot of live rock at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Unfortunately there is no such thing as budget when it comes to marines. There has been many a post from those who think that the 'nemos' look good and want to have some in a tank. They buy or acquire a sub 200l tank and try and set it up for marines. Small tank does not equal small cost for setup, and in reality the money spent to set up a small tank set up incorrectly, then adding or upgrading gear as you find it does not do the job is probably better spent on setting up a 200l+ tank properly in the first place. Many attempt a small tank and then give up after they suffer fish and invert/coral losses due to an inability to keep the parameters stable, the temperature low over the summer months or sub optimal lighting. I am not trying to put you off, but marines are something that you have to be willing to commit a fair amount of money to in order to provide the best conditions for the inhabitants, once you have achieved this, then they are a pleasure to keep, and not a chore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the new guy Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 It would be cheaper and more beneficial to use a sump. If you wanted you could use the cannister filter on the sump to act as the return pump so you don't have to buy an individual pump, This is were the phosphate remover could also be incorporated. i will go for the sump. to be honest with you, i have no idea how the sump should be built. i have looked at some complex ones on other discusions, and on the internet but im guessing they depend on the how big the main tank is?? In regards to a larger 200L tank. the only reason i bought a small tank is because i dont have a huge amount of room. although a 200L+ would be awsome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 If I were you I would get the biggest tank that you can afford and go from there, tbh there isn't that much price difference between a 65L tank and say a 300L tank (maybe an extra $300-400 on equipment). You could then use the 65L tank as the sump on the bigger tank (might have to be slightly bigger if you want to stock it properly). Because lets be honest, if you get the 65L tank up and running your going to want a bigger tank and have more fishes and corals aren't ya? :roll: Before you buy any more equipment have a look on trademe to get an idea on how much extra it will cost to upgrade to a good sized reef setup, and if you can afford to, upgrade!! oh and sumps don't need to be complicated for a small tank, a good basic sump has a slot for DSB, a few peices of live rock, and ceramic noodles - pretty cheap and easy to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Do you have a marine tank GZ_Loach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ_Loach Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Do you have a marine tank GZ_Loach? I'm organising one :happy2: And if I'm thinking what your thinking, then i have read about 10 different articles about marine tanks and looked at probably twice as many setups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Correct, I am indeed interested if the information you are freely dishing out is based on first hand knowledge or just something you have read. Same goes for Zayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 250 liters would only be 100x50x50cm, so it's not actually too big. I'm sure you'd be able to fit it in to your house somewhere. Although I don't know much about marines and have never kept them, if I were getting a marine tank I would go for something high and wide (not too high though or then you need metal frames etc and it becomes too expensive). For 100x50x50cm you could get a cheap (well, cheaper than most halides anyway) Aqua One metal halide/PC combo hood that would fit that sized tank nicely: http://www.hollywoodfishfarm.co.nz/deta ... de/m/1231/ The petshop here in Blenheim use it on their tropical marine display tank, and it is one of the nicest marine tanks I have ever seen! They have mostly soft corals in it I think. And soft corals, IMO, are much nicer than a lot of hard corals. And like people have said, you can use the 65L for a sump. HFF currently have specials on Reef Octopus Skimmers. You could get a hang-on one so there is more room in the sump for other filter media and equipment. http://www.hollywoodfishfarm.co.nz/specials.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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