knobtale Posted February 22, 2011 Report Share Posted February 22, 2011 Interesting that these are referred to as Albino, as in order for them to be albino you would need to have blue? I would say they are lutino ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason22 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 blue???? please explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 to make an albino bird you need a blue based bird to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 how do you explain an albino blackbird then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 because the black has a blue base it all depends on how the alleles in the feathers refract light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Interesting that these are referred to as Albino, as in order for them to be albino you would need to have blue? I would say they are lutino ! yes the colour could be described as lutino but green as a colour actually contains blue $10 dollars says you breed birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 does the blue on the frogs back legs count?(the water was cold) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 does the blue on the frogs back legs count?(the water was cold) must have been really cold cause you can't see the other bit on a frog P.S. too busy answering the question :facepalm: welcome to the forum knobtale are you knew to the hobby of rep keeping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 just a thought or two leucism is often mistaken for albinism, leucism can cause reduction in all types of pigment. Albinism results in the reduction of melanin production only, though melanophore is still present, so in species that have other pigment cell-types albinos can visually display a pale yellow colour. Albinos display a red eye colour due to a lack of melanin production whereas leucistic animals have normally coloured eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 how do you explain an albino blackbird then?[/quote Albino is a mutation that removes all pigment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 blue???? please explain Green is made up of Blue and Yellow which gives the `visual elusion of green` …. If you genetically remove Blue , as may be the case of these frogs you are left with Lutino…. ( Which is comprised of the `INO’ Gene + Green ) …. In order to breed Albinos you need to need to Genetically remove both the Green and the Blue which leaves nothing …. Ino + Nothing + Nothing Leaves you INO… In Latin we would refer to Albino as `Alba` or white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 does the blue on the frogs back legs count?(the water was cold) no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh boy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Interesting that these are referred to as Albino, as in order for them to be albino you would need to have blue? I would say they are lutino ! i don't understand how those 2 statements work together please explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 oh boy... :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 does the blue on the frogs back legs count?(the water was cold) to make an albino bird you need a blue based bird to do it To make an albino anything you need to remove both yellow and blue http://www.awsaclub.com/healthgenetics/ ... entics.htm Here is a link to The Theories Of Genetics there are only three modes of transfurance they are recessive, dominant, and sex linked..... All knowen mutations, through out the animal kingdom fall under one these linkages... If not then it is an aquired colour (not a mutation) or a sport (not capable of reproducing the gene) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 must have been really cold cause you can't see the other bit on a frog P.S. too busy answering the question :facepalm: welcome to the forum knobtale are you knew to the hobby of rep keeping? I kept Reptile s in Canada for several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobtale Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 just a thought or two leucism is often mistaken for albinism, leucism can cause reduction in all types of pigment. Albinism results in the reduction of melanin production only, though melanophore is still present, so in species that have other pigment cell-types albinos can visually display a pale yellow colour. Albinos display a red eye colour due to a lack of melanin production whereas leucistic animals have normally coloured eyes. Yes but Leucistic is not Lutinoistic, the former is known as a dark eyes clear, such as in the case of `white walking fish` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 can i throw the word Xanthochromism into the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 for those not bothering to run off and research that word http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthochromism nice pic of Xanthochromistic Argentine Horned Frog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 axanthic (axanthism)- blue frog, opposite of xanthic (xanthochromism) - yellow frog... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Yes but Leucistic is not Lutinoistic, the former is known as a dark eyes clear, such as in the case of `white walking fish` axolotl colour page for you http://www.axolotl.org/genetics.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Albino is a mutation that removes all pigment ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason22 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Green is made up of Blue and Yellow which gives the `visual elusion of green` …. If you genetically remove Blue , as may be the case of these frogs you are left with Lutino…. ( Which is comprised of the `INO’ Gene + Green ) …. In order to breed Albinos you need to need to Genetically remove both the Green and the Blue which leaves nothing …. Ino + Nothing + Nothing Leaves you INO… In Latin we would refer to Albino as `Alba` or white. i didn't think lutino animals have red eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repto Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 lutino budgies do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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