SamH Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 13 days ago on the 3rd of January 2011 the fry of these fish hatched: Ever since I've been doing 50% daily water changes and feeding solely microworms 2-4 times a day. But according to this chart my fry are only at week one size. What am I doing wrong? What's your method of raising Betta fry? Thanks -Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshlikesfish Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Try that decap I gave you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 fry grow at different rates i.e. spawn two lots at the same time but there may be a considerable difference between the two growth rates. Also depends on how many in the spawn and imo to a certain extent genetics. I do know however that the smaller the spawn the way faster they grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 feeding solely microworms 2-4 times a day. Maybe mix it up a bit. I think Microworms are high in fat but not so much protein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 So decaps then? Adrienne, this spawn seems kinda big, well to me anyways. But I'm noticing differences as much as 100% between fry from this spawn, that normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Live Artemia nuplii every time you walk past the tank and water change on the way back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Don't have an BS (I have decap though) but what percentage water change do you suggest? The water level's at about half way in a 60x30x30cm, can the fry have it near full at this stage? Too early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navarre Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 It has been a long time since I had fighters and I wasnt that good at it, but The more water you have the more room the fish have so the bigger they can get BUT you also have to be carefull because the food can get _lost_ in the extra room Also the more you change the water the harder it is to keep stable so the more work you have to put in to it to maintain parameters BUT the more water that is changed and the more food that goes in the fast fish grow having more volume early in the piece may not be the answer but having aged water good to go a few times a day might be Maybe seeing its hols and hot a water change 3x a day and feeding straight after might be a good comprimise only needs to be a small change each time say 20% or so...trial and earror untill you sort what work for you My discus fry used to get 200% water changes every day...but it was warm aged water and they were feed 6 times a day Maybe? LOL HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Trial and error... I find that what works for one doesn't necessarily work for the other. At this age for you, its a balance of keeping the bottom of the tank clean enough and the water good enough yet not removing all the fine organisms that hatch and live in the detritis of the tank (does that make sense?) I have one out of five spawns atm that will not grow! Why - no idea. They get the same water changes, the same food BUT there are hundreds and hundreds of them. A lot of people say feed as you walk past, water change as you walk back. A variety of fine live food is the best as they really need the movement to attract them to eat but decap brine shrimp works okay as long as you soak it first for a few minutes to stop it swelling in their bellies. I find the movement when I pour it in encourages the young fry to it. They all graze the bottom in one way or another. I looked at the growth chart. 50% of my current spawns are up with that, 40% below it and 10% above. The above are mostly the 15 fighters I got from one spawn who have a tank to themselves. Even within a spawn there is a vast difference in the growth rates. However the biggest and fastest developing are not always the best. Culling is a good idea once they reach a size that you can select the best looking and colours from. It cuts down on the cost of feeding them and stops tank overcrowding plus it means that you are not trying to get rid of inferior quality fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I just do a 50% tap water change at night, they seem fine. Maybe fry aren't as sensitive as they are made out to be. Might go feed decap now actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Nice pair Thats a huge bubblenest I'm curious to see what colours this will bring you. Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Thanks Trilo, he's a really great father and nest builder. Starting to see some blues coming through but the larger ones are mainly without colour at this stage. When they get to about 2cm I will move them into a 90x40x40 tank but at this stage it's just large daily water changes and heaps of feeds. Thanks for the interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Awesome They sound like their doing great. Hopefully some pks pop up eh? When they're bigger post piccies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah with HMPK and PK I should hope there's at least a couple of PKs in there I'll definitely get pics when they're bigger Here's one from a few days back, excuse the mucky tank :oops: No surprises the bigger ones won't pose for me :nilly: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah with HMPK and PK The females PK too? Then you can expect 100% of 'em No surprises the bigger ones won't pose for me Haha they're like gingerbread men "catch me if you can, fool" You manged to get a good picture of the fry though, thats a magic skill that doesnt apply to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 The female's father was PK (brother to my pink PK) and her mother was halfmoon. Not sure about the lineage of my blue PK male but he's likely got HMPK in his blood. So maybe some HM throws but hoping for mostly PK 8) I just have a really good camera, cropping skills and a LOT of patience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ah so shes a carrier, I didn't think she was a pk. You might even get hmpk 8) How many fry do you have? Paitience and a good camera are two things that I lack. My camera 'focuses' but changes its mind when I push the button. After many repeated failures I give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Yeah there's little tricks to taking good photos, I good camera is the best start though. I've counted 40 a night or two ago and only seen one dead since then. I'd be stoked with 40 but I've been told there's always twice as many as you can count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 It takes good photos when it decides to but it usually sulks. Photoshop helps my below average photos into average ones. twice as many as you can count! Imagine if they were all males :lol: Sounds like a great spawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Photoshop is the best If they were all males I'd be rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 It truely is! Making wierd pictures on it is so fun And I'd be poor from buying them :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Either I have damn lazy fry or belly sliders. Just did a water change and dropped in a huge amount of microworms and all they did was slide eagerly around. Really hoping they're just lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trilobite Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Aw no I'd try and get them off the ground before their ventrals start develpoing...But I have no idea how to do that. I've heard micoworms encourage lazyness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Have had an extra airstone in there for a while now, I have nothing else to feed them really. Might add my small pump tomorrow but I keep the bottom really clean anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Worth taking out and jarring the larger one? S/he's about twice as big as most of the fry, the closest one is about 2/3 of his/her size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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