s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Hey guys, is this fish pretty much had it? hes one of my origional swordtails, i noticed thisafternoon that his fins seem to have seperated, the bottom fins are extremely short, and extremely skinny, and hes just hiding at the bottom of the tank, moving asthough hes hyperventilating.. heres some pics, also noticed a female odessabarb has the bottom part of her tail missing!?!?! very worried - never had these problems till now!!! Odessa with Fin missing Swordtail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1CK Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 looks like fin rot, a meth blue bath usually fixes it if it's not too bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 This is him just the other week when he was all healthy And back to his current condition.... please help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 looks like fin rot, a meth blue bath usually fixes it if it's not too bad Is that for the Odessa or for the sword? or both? How bad is too bad? Is it contageous?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 temp of water filtration Amonia, Nitrite and nitrate readings what sort of water changes do you do this would help asses the problem i reckon. but looks like a disease, thogu in saying that, the other pics didnt have signs of it if that is recent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 temp of water filtration Amonia, Nitrite and nitrate readings what sort of water changes do you do this would help asses the problem i reckon. but looks like a disease, thogu in saying that, the other pics didnt have signs of it if that is recent. Water temp is approx 26 degrees celcius, filtration is the stock AR620t setup, two filters at top, powered by a powerhead of some description how do i measure amonia, nitrate? pH was pretty much bang on 7.0 yesterday afternoon waterchanges have been frequent recently as the tank has a habit of clouding up / going green if left to one WC per week, most changed is 35%, normally 25% cheers... hes still alive so far.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Update - He didnt make it through the night... but would still like to know how to test the above? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos & Siran Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 you can either buy a master test kit from your LFS, it can be a bit pricey but they last ages, some people do it weekly, we only do it when we remember, or if we have probs. Or you can just take a water sample in to your LFS and they'll do what ever you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 you can either buy a master test kit from your LFS, it can be a bit pricey but they last ages, some people do it weekly, we only do it when we remember, or if we have probs. Or you can just take a water sample in to your LFS and they'll do what ever you need. Great Thanks!! Just a stab in the dark, does anyone recognise what is wrong with the swordtail? the top fin looks similar to finrot to me, but his rear "sword" doesnt.. has anyone seen this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Fin rot is usually caused by poor water quality. It may also be that another fish is attacking it. What else in in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henward Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 tiger barbs can be agro to other fish. that might cause it. fin rot can be caused by a WOUND opening up by attacks too. mucous goes away and infection onsets. bad water quality. insufficient filtration. test kits are crucial i dont test my water often at all. but thats cos i know what my filters are capable of. but, i think everyone should have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 test kits are crucial i dont test my water often at all. but thats cos i know what my filters are capable of. but, i think everyone should have them. Agreed, I used it [Master Test Kit] heaps when I first started out and when I start new tanks or when a problem like this comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3xtcy Posted April 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Hmmm ok, ill buy one tonight, ive got the normal GH, KH, and pH test kits, but never was even told about ammonia and nitrate level testers.. The filter is probably working overtime, as theres alot of fish in there, the tank is overstocked.. list of fish : 2 male angels, 2 plecs, 5 tiger barbs 1 male swordtails (used to be two) 3 female swordtails 4 male odessa barbs 2 female odessa barbs 1 albino rainbow shark 1 rainbow shark I have got another tank which i was planning on moving some fish into, however i found out that internal filters do not balance out the ammonia levels? apparantly they cannot remove it? so as soon as i buy a external filter ill start transferring fish... cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Internal filters are just as capable as externals at building up a good colony of bacteria and converting ammonia.. The major advantage of an external is it has a hard amount of media and can pump lots of water through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennifer Posted April 9, 2010 Report Share Posted April 9, 2010 Internal filters are just as capable as externals at building up a good colony of bacteria and converting ammonia.. The major advantage of an external is it has a hard amount of media and can pump lots of water through it.+1 A good canister can also be somewhat of a reservoir for some water, thus essentially increasing the total volume of the tank. It sounds like you are well on your way to solving this problem. Sorting the stocking and testing the water is a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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