Jfishfanatic Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 People do breed them in small tanks like 30x30x20cm (LxWxH). But they move them to bigger grow out later on. So you might as well start with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 acually 2ft isnt as big as i first though so my "smaller" tanks should be fine, the smallest is around 38 ltrs Thanks for the help. Now i just need to figure out what the best/cheapest filtering option is for bare bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sponge filter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 So i can just go into a lps and say "1 sponge filter please?" or is it another filter with a sponge on the powerhead thingy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 1 sponge filter please sounds like a good idea. now a days they are fancy and have 2 sponges instead of one. you need air tubing and a working airpump and a regulator (tap) to make em work properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I just have a regular pump with an old filter sponge over the intake grill. Works brilliantly but blows everything across the tank. You may need an air powered one for Bettas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Well basically I want something as a complete unit, dont wanna fart about too much with something im not completely familar with. And also I really want to keep that water flow as low as possible. I guess what evers cheap enough then, and restrict it with sponge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Pretty much. Anything that is gentle/can be turned down and won't suck in/kill/grind into a paste/mincify/destroy/harm the fry is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 the fancy new sponge filters are like $16 for the double ones. the corner box filters can still be found at some warehouses for like $10. so both are cheap as chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Oh thank heavens then! I thought I was looking at $40 + at least, well I guess thats still true if I go to the unmentionable chain pet store. Ill get a new tank then too, may as well have more and more and more tanks! MORE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 jfishfanatic is 100% correct. The eggs that the female has dropped in the tank will not be fertile. This is because when the male wraps around the female and embraces (squeezes) her he releases milt (sperm) which fertilises the eggs as they are released by the female. No milt/no fertilised eggs! If she is dropping eggs it is because she is ready to spawn and too full of them. Take her away for about 11 days and then try again. Not all attempts at spawning are successful. Not all fighters will breed with each other, like humans just because you like someone it doesn't mean you want to attempt to breed with them. Sometimes one or both fighters are too young. Sometimes the male is an egg eater. The bigger the tank for spawning the harder it is for the male to seduce the female as he has to swim further to attract her attention. Better to keep them in a smaller tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Thanks adodge! Im fairly certain they are compatible though, I think she was just holding for far far too long. Last night she looked like she really wanted out of the bottle but I was too nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Welcome back ADodge . I have still had no luck with breeding, must just be me though. :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 you have yours in dividers right sam? I found they didnt really seem like they wanted to breed till they couldnt see each other all the time. Infact, Zev wouldnt make a nest at first while she was anywhere in sight. Its the dashing to look at her then racing back to the nest that really got things started though, but still, I made her, even in the bottle I had her, there was plenty of hiding places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Welcome back ADodge . I have still had no luck with breeding, must just be me though. :-? Bad luck Sam I popped a pair of ct together on Sunday morning, let her out of the container on Sunday night. When I got home from work yesterday afternoon they had spawned and this evening the fry have hatched and are now keeping dad very busy picking them up and putting them back in the nest. However the pair of ct and the pair of mustard gas plakats I put together yesterday are still only remotely interested in each other so we will see. And this is from someone who was going to slow down breeding fighters and only breed twice a year!!! :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Sorry adodge can you just clarify something for me, that 11 days waiting period for the female to drop her eggs, is that without food or just very very light feeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 How do you do it ADodge? Maybe I could lend you my Super Delta Pair, you breed them, raise the fry and give them back to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 lol Sam im with you there, these past 3 days have been exhausting, mentally draining. Ive been fussing though but I always will, its weird to love something so small and fishy lol. I was a mess after my first fighter died and I didnt even have him a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 How do you do it ADodge? Maybe I could lend you my Super Delta Pair, you breed them, raise the fry and give them back to me? I was actually trying to point out that it doesn't always work. :lol: My shed that only had 2 tanks up 8 days ago now has 7 running - 4 fighter tanks, a discus breeding tank, a L270 setup and a young sterbai quarantine tank. Fighter breeding will happen for you both, you just have to be patient and leave them alone to do their thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 L270 setup and a young sterbai quarantine tank. any breeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 any breeding? hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 me too :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Here Ruth(less) showing her banding Just a quick question...Anyone able to tell what tail type she is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamH Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Her tail type doesn't matter, her genes do. If she was a he, she'd be a Plakat/Shortfinned. BUT she is not a he so I'm thinking roundtailed/normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymox Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Ok so tail type isnt transferred through Genes then? How is it transferred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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