Can I treat one tank for 2 diseases

[GeeTee]

I am currently treating my discus for white spot,which has cleared from the discus but is still on the clown loaches in with them.So still treating.

One of the discus has white fluffy poo,and after asking the question yesterday and searching the forums,it would appear I need to treat this fish with Metrogyl.

Is it safe to treat the tank for both diseases at the same time or do I need to separate the offending fish and treat separately.

When is the right time to do a water change when treating for whitespot?

Have done 2 in the week treating,and re-dosed after each change. Don't know if this is the right thing to do, but I had to, to much poo on the bottom of the tank. Couldn't stand to see it there.

[nzdiscus]

i think you can treat both together if your fish are still feeding. the white spot cure will do a great job. for internal infectionin if u sure they have it, the best way is giving them medicine food until you can't see any white poo.

also slowly increase the temp to 32 will do a lots of helps.

can do 50% of water change every other days.

[Flosty]

What med are you using for the whitespot?

You could raise your temp to 30 and leave it there for a week or two until it clears up avoiding the use of meds

Best to only treat with metro if you are sure its needed

Treat the discus in a separate tank this would minimise on metro use.

If you have to treat the main tank, metro and a higher temp of 32° works best together,

but the other fish may not like these temps,although it will resolve your whitespot issues

My Discus tanks sit anywhere between 27-30° so whitespot is not a problem.

28° is a good target temp.Daily water changes will keep your discus tank ticking along nicely

[whetu]

I can't answer your question directly but I do know that clown loaches will be fine in the higher temps recommended by others. I treated my clowns for white spot (some years ago now) using meds and temperature up to around 32 degrees and they were fine. Other fish in the tank (ottos etc) did not fare so well.

[GeeTee]

For the white spot I am using Aqua master Rapid white spot remedy,tank is at 29 degrees,may need a better thermometer because the white spot is still there.

Other fish in the tank are 2 clown,1 yo-yo loach and 2 b/n.

Is it worth taking the loaches out and treating separately at 1/2 strength so I can treat the tank at full strength? Or just keep on the 1/2 strength and raise the temp to the 32 as you said flosty? Only asking because it has been 1 week now have been treating the tank.

I did a search on the forums to find out about the "white fluffy poos" and the use of metro, so only going on info from the people on this great site.

[LYNDYLOO]

Just watch the Meds with your Clown Loaches :roll:

I have Clowns in with my Discus and always halve the Meds if treating the Tank for White Spot, do a good water change after 3 Days then dose again.

I would also be more inclined to treat with the Metro in a Hospital Tank rather than treating your Main Tank.

The info I gave you in the other Post, was what was given to me By the guy that Breed the Discus I now have.

Good Luck

[GeeTee]

Thanks guys most helpful as always.

LYNDYLOO,

Had to start another post,the other one was getting a bit crowded.

Thanks again.

[Flosty]

Wow you got the whitespot at that temp of 29° or have you just raised it?

I don't know to much about the loaches and there treatment with that med but MarkLB just put up a good link in another whitespot post

Whitespot do not like temps of 30°

Raising the temp to 32° would be in conjuction with the metro treatment for your discus,best done in a hospital tank

Maybe put up a piccy of the white poo and someone maybe able to point you in the right direction with treatment

[GeeTee]

That's why I said I may need a new thermometer,it says 29 and has done for a week.

Will get another one tomorrow and see what it reads.

Might try for a pic later,just going to do a water change now.

My loaches don't look like the one in that link, thank goodness.

[LYNDYLOO]

I got White Spot with my Tank sitting at 30

Halved the Meds for my Loaches and had it sorted after 2 Doses.

[Flosty]

Did the whitespot come in on another fish?

[alanmin4304]

Raising the temperature will not cure whitespot it just speeds up the reproductive cycle so the whitespot can be treated at the vegetative stage. The white spots on the fish are resistant to meds. You should also treat for about a week after the white spots have gone.

[GeeTee]

I redid the tank for the discus,new gravel.some plants(changed from Africans)

I had it with only the loaches and b/n in it waiting for the discus,so I'm guessing it came on the discus.

When I went to get the white spot meds at the lfs,I checked the tank they were in and I reckon I could see the odd spot on the discus in there.

So I let them know.

[GeeTee]

The white fluffy poos seem to have gone from my ill fish,but now I have noticed it is breathing through the one gill.

In a sticky that Caryl has in the disease section this would be a symtom of gill fluke.

Still not eating either.Doesn't look thin tho'. Gills could be a bit red as well,but a bit hard to tell with it being a white fish.

Have just finished a lot of reading on this site and a few others and it all gets to confusing.

What do I treat with????

Have a vet friend that is getting me a few meds,prazi or droncit and trying for some furan 2 too.

I have metro from a previous ill fish,should I dose with this for now till other meds arrive?

What other meds would be good to have on hand, as I have access to them?

[GeeTee]

Have checked the fish this morning and it is breathing normally and through both gills.

Still not eating tho'. Haven't really seen it eat anything decent in the 2 weeks I have had it.It was taking food in and then spitting it out again.

It swims around and most of the time it swims with the other fish,only sometimes will it sit alone but the other fish do that as well.

Still looks healthy enough too,not thin.

??????

[LYNDYLOO]

I would probably try doing a Course of Furan2 in a Hospital Tank

Furan2 should be available from your Petshop.

Meds you should have on hand when having Discus are:

Metronidazole 400mg tablets ( Need to get this from your Vet)

Epsom Salts ( Supermarket will have this)

Rock Salt (Supermarket will have this)

Furan2 ( Petshop should have this)

Droncit (Available from your Vet)

[GeeTee]

After isolating the offending fish with white fluffy poos and treating with Metro I notice when checking the fish this arvo(5 days after starting treatment)what looks like a worm probably the size of a match stick on the bottom of the tank.

Does this sound right?

I am hoping this was the problem with this fish and things will get back to how they should be.

[LYNDYLOO]

You will probably find he/she had Worms.

Could you put a pic on the Site for us to see.

Droncit is normally used to treat for Worms, but maybe the Metro has got it sorted.

[GeeTee]

I did intend taking a pic,but slipped my mind and have cleaned the tank now.

[LYNDYLOO]

Hopefully your Discus will be on the mend again now.

Just keep on eye on it, for a couple of weeks to make sure it has recovered completely, before adding it back to the Main Tank.

[GeeTee]

It has taken this long but the sick discus came to the top of the tank for a feed this arvo.(first time I have seen it eat properly.

I end up treating the whole tank with Trichlorfon because the sick fish was breathing through one gill and clamping the other one shut,so was treating for gill fluke.Must have been the problem.

All is good.

Thanks again for your help.

Greg

[LYNDYLOO]

Awesome to hear your Discus is finally feeding again now.

Hope he keeps it up for you, my Sick Guy had 2 stints in the Hospital Tank, but is feeding all good now, so hoping he will now behave himself from now on.