kyla50 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 yesterday purchased a red zebra trio, usally i would go and view the fish before buying big mistake as we meet the woman halfway, when i got the fish home viewed them and two of the three are totally blind any ideas as to what this is or whats the cause, tried to grt her to take them back but she refuse's and says they were fine when she caught them yesterday morning what a rip off . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 can you put a pic up? what makes you say they are blind? are the eyes covered, or non existent or just not there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyla50 Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 they seem clouded over not clear at all and they swim around bumping into things i was told by a guy they have pop eye or something. hope you can view its really not clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html that link is the best one i know of for treatments.... a pic would really help though, cause it very well could be something completely unrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 doesn't look like pop eye - I enlarged the pic to have a look. Pop eye is when the whole eye sticks out on the side of the head. It could be due to water conditions so plenty of water changes may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyla50 Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 yea even though im new to fish keeping iam sure it's not pop eye, as ive been looking it up, they could just be real old fish that are going blind, bummer. thanks for the input though guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Can you post anymore pics? My africans have had a similar problem in the past and I think it comes from the fish smashing its eye into a rock and it becoming infected.. I have treated it by dropping meth blue directly onto the eye (avoiding getting it into the gills). The graze on the eye usually clears up by itself but I put the meth blue on there so that it doesn't become infected and the fish loose its eye, more pictures should be able to clear it up futher although I haven't found fish that photogenic when it comes to taking photos of their eyes or fine details.. It sucks that the person selling the fish wont remedy the problem or even talk to you about it.. The odds of them getting eye damage in bags are very slim so if they were like that when you let them out of the bags then chances are they were like that when they were put in there, maybe that's why they met you? Of course there is every chance they have no idea what they are doing either.. Pop eye is pretty obvious the eyes would be popping right out of the head which they don't look to be doing from your photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyla50 Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 will try get a better pic, and yea she would have noticed as its the 1st thing i saw when we got home and you can see that they have been blind for ages no wonder she was selling them on t-me . why people dont state problems when selling things i would have never wasted my money buying them as they are useless to me and very ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Oh well all you can do is place bad feedback so that others are warned there are plenty of dodgy dealers on there always best to try and get them from someone who knows what they're doing, from the looks of the pic you have put up they are pretty poor quality red zebras anyway but that could just be the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeh_buddy Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 I know that fish sometimes get cloudy eye due to stress, I found that with treating with just Stress Coat with the aloe vera in it cleared it up in the matter of days. It worked for Phoenix's Pictus Catfish when their eyes went cloudy. Didn't it Kash?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 it did jamie, but that was cloudy eye. We don't really know what this is yet if its damage, meth blue and stress coat should do the trick, with a LOT of water changes. same deal with cloudy eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeh_buddy Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Im going based of the fact that the woman says they were fine. True she could be lying but if she is being honest then Im thinking it wouldnt have been damaged and more cloudy eye. Besides you cant do any damage with treating with stress coat just for the moment and seeing if that works. Before going and treating with Meth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyla50 Posted March 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 iam sure the seller would have noticed unless she to is blind anyhow here is another pic guys , by the way the fish seem happy just unable to see, i would say they had been like this awhile. thanks people. http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=redzebrac.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 yeh, i agree. stress coat does no harm. as i remember i used a good 400mL when i needed it. :lol: I hope you figure out what's going on.... its v sad that someone on TM would do something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 lol that fish isn't a red zebra either looks more like an ice blue to me red zebras should be orange or a pinky/white with a blue tinge. Typical of what you buy off trademe when you get zebras Can you take another photo, I would say the best thing to do is to catch the fish take them out of the water turn your macro on and get someone to take a descent photo of the eye and don't resize them too much so we can actually see what's going on. Phoenix there are tons of people who sell dodgy fish on trademe very common with the africans esp zebras, people buy them from all over the place and attempt to match them up with dodgy photo's off the net and they are usually hybrids.. You also get alot of the "photo off the net but fish are identical" and you show up and find a completely different fish.. I don't know if stress coat would actually do anything? I have never used it, I thought it was one of those products that fishshops pushed and sold but didn't actually do alot to actually cure anything? Are the fish actually blind it is very hard to see what has happened in that photo it is very small, sometimes when fish are first introduced they do dart around the tank when startled and crash into stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeh_buddy Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 Well I still think treat with Stress Coat and see what happens. Let us know would be keen to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caper Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 Any changes in the fishies' eyes??? Sam (goldfish) is blind. Have not a clue what happened, the only reason I noticed anything was wrong was he wasn't coming right over to me when feeding time. But that's at least a couple of years now! If you look at his eyes with a magnifying glass, it's like, umm, how to describe :-? , well instead of seeing black it looks clear! Caper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyla50 Posted March 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 Hi guys nah no change in there eye's i think there is nothing more to do with em, i dont think these fishes will be breeding anytime soon, but thanks for all the advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 One of my male discus was attacked by another male about 4 weeks ago and looked like he was going to be permanently blind in one eye. He definitely couldn't see out of it. It took 3 weeks and his eye has cleared up and is fine. Persevere for a bit longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi guys nah no change in there eye's i think there is nothing more to do with em, i dont think these fishes will be breeding anytime soon, but thanks for all the advise. I wouldn't be in any hurry to breed from them anyway, the last pic you posted isn't a red zebra.. It would be interesting to post some more pics of all of them and see what they are all, you may have brought a bunch of hybrids or mixed up zebras.. As adodge said sometimes the eyes get better by themselves as long as the eye isn't going fluffy then fungus hasn't set in and there is a chance, of course they could already be gone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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