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Yay me,

The parents Laid the eggs 3 nights ago when spoon was picking up a fish from me,

Placed the stone with eggs on it in a container with meth blue and an air stone. It's about the 5th time the parents have laid and thought maybe he was sterile or something.

There seem to be quite a few at this stage over 100 i know that much, Hardly any went white and the few that did i managed to get the bad ones out.

We have liquifry for food and later on BBS hopefully they make it to that stage wouldnt mind getting some green water sorted.

Anybody have any other little tips and tricks which may help in keeping these guys alive?

Also should i keep putting meth blue in the water or is this mainly for the egg stage keeping them from going bad

Any tips welcome

Thanks

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Will do

Another thing i was meant to ask,

How long should i keep them in the container, its 2 litres.

It's so convenient to do water changes with it set up the way it is, so i have been doing this every day to keep the water fresh and adding fresh meth blue Thats alright eh

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:hail::hail:

If you succeed in raising them put me on the list to buy them please :P

Sure dixon we will see what happens.

Long way to go yet,

I might even give my bolivian rams another go at breeding, tank they are in at the moment is too busy for that to happen

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Hi guys

As i mentioned above i have liquifry and BBS.

Is this all i need? Or should i get something else for in between the 2.

I know they won't be able to eat the BBS for a couple of weeks

Don't know if my attempt of making green water is working or not. How long should that take? and i read in another post to put a lettuce leaf in water out in the sun. hope thats correct.

Anyhow the babies are doing good, Hardly any casulties during the wriggler stage so fingers crossed

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at a guess 60-90, good on ya!!! now you just have to not kill them. lol. get brine shrimp going. if you can hatch the shrimp in sea water, i ve found it has a much higher success rate. i would also suggest that you start to add fresh distilled water gradually over the next 3-5 days to completely replace the water they are in. i dont use meth blue, but i think that its just to keep the eggs from rotting? i dont think it will be of any benefit to the fish from here on in, but i may be wrong. i have heard that the active ingredient in meth blue is a carcenagenic (sp.) causes cancer, and is heavily regulated in the States, so i would be careful not to get it directly on the skin. that being said i think it is one thing most fish breeders swear by.

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Cheers Jc,

I'm hoping not to loose too many. Yesterday was the last time using the meth blue, was told to use it till they start free swimming and have to say i lost probably under 10 wrigglers before they started swimming.

So you reckon start hatching the bbs now?

I thought they may be a lil small for it but they have gotten alot bigger

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yeah go for it with the brine shrimp eh they are really small and fish just love them to bits. I would think after 5 days since hatching they will be fine. As a rule id say as soon as they are free swimming. But this is probably up for contestment (sp.).

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Awesome that's alot of blue ram fry good work :)

Now to raise them :) Feed them when they are fully free swimming (ie not just taking little jumps off the bottom). Be very careful not to overfeed or underfeed as both will result in you loosing fry (you should see their tummies fill up and go pink with brineshrimp white with micros). Also try and do lots of little water changes with preheated water of the same parameters that many fry will foul the water quite quickly, from what I have seen with others who have managed to raise the fry, it is very common to have lots of fry in the beginning but only raise 20 or so.

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  • 2 weeks later...

:cry: They are gone..

My bolivian ram fry wasn't this hard to keep alive.

It's ok though they seem to lay every 2 weeks on a Thursday night. I should have some more wrigglers tonight or tomorrow.

And with every failed attempt i will become more and more prepared and learn from it

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I've got baby blue rams and all I'm doing in putting a few plants in and leaving then (not feeding or doing water changes yet). So far they've been free swimming over a week but i didn't get a great success rate (maybe only 50) as I hatched the eggs myself with an airstone where I usually leave the parents to hatch them (last time I done that I got 150+). Good luck with raising them.

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