phoenix44 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Update. I lost 2 glass cats over night. 1 clown loach isnt looking good and has a white film over its eyes. All of the neons and danios have their scales sticking out, A bit like dropsy but they are not bloated. Time for meds???? re the eyes thing... refer my topic in the diseases section.... v v long posts... completely baffling people. in the end i used salt, acriflavine, quinine, meth green and furan to control sheer devastation and walked out with 3 CL deaths and almost everything else dying. if it weren't for those meds nothing would have survived. let me know if you see similarities between the symptoms. I'd keep that salt in the tank, but when you do water changes which you will have to do a lot of- add only a tiny amount of salt thus reducing the salinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 re the eyes thing... refer my topic in the diseases section.... v v long posts... completely baffling people. in the end i used salt, acriflavine, quinine, meth green and furan to control sheer devastation and walked out with 3 CL deaths and almost everything else dying. if it weren't for those meds nothing would have survived. let me know if you see similarities between the symptoms. I'd keep that salt in the tank, but when you do water changes which you will have to do a lot of- add only a tiny amount of salt thus reducing the salinity. I just read your other thread and the only similarities are the speed of death and the one C.L that had the white film over the eyes. That C.L died about an hour ago along with 2 neons. The 6 remaining gourami's all seem pefectly fine as do the 3 adult GBA and the upside down cat. everthing else looks like it will struggle to last the night I have just completed another water change, added a litle bit more salt and have started teating with furan. Its a pulic holiday here today so i cant get any other meds until tomorrow. Thanks for the help and concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Here are a few pics of whats going on. I hope they are clear enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I am not sure what those fish are or what they are supposed to look like.... but the top two photos, the tufts from between the fins, that looks like columnaris. Tis a bacteria that lives in the water anyway and gets stuck in when the fishes' immune systems are low. I usually use salt at a rate of 1 tsp per litre to clear that up. Can be a rather nasty disease and the acute form can kill very swiftly (24hrs, and usually the fish look awful by the time they die). The chronic form takes a bit longer, like a week or two, before it gets nasty/fatal. Not sure if that fits with the other symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 it took me about 10 days of non stop worrying and regular medication. clownloaches are amazingly strong at that size. they can starve for weeks so fingers crossed yours pull through. do you find little (tiny) flaky bits floating in the water? especially once the furan has gone in and you do your first water change? I turned all filtration off - just left an internal filter i use to oxygenate the water and create a flow over the heater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Thanks for the info Stella I'm just doing the sums for the salt 250L tank = 250 tsp salt @ 6.6g per tsp = 1.65kg salt Sounds like a hell of a lot of salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 hehehe yup, and it looks even bigger when you measure it out! If you have not put it in already, dissolve it first and add it in slowly over an hour or three. Not sure how much of a difference it makes, but possibly less of a shock to the system. It is a fairly decent dosage, so stand by for any fish objecting, and do a waterchange or yoik them out if need be. I haven't had that myself, but you have different species I have no experience with. Remember your stones etc take up a chunk of the literage, and you don't have the tank filled right up. Stones usually take up 10% but my tanks are real rockeries so I subtract 20%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiplymouth Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 hehehe yup, and it looks even bigger when you measure it out! If you have not put it in already, dissolve it first and add it in slowly over an hour or three. Not sure how much of a difference it makes, but possibly less of a shock to the system. It is a fairly decent dosage, so stand by for any fish objecting, and do a waterchange or yoik them out if need be. I haven't had that myself, but you have different species I have no experience with. Remember your stones etc take up a chunk of the literage, and you don't have the tank filled right up. Stones usually take up 10% but my tanks are real rockeries so I subtract 20%. I don't mean to question your knowledge on this but perhaps that amount of salt is fine for natives and fish that can handle tidal and brackish water. Maybe a salt water bath for non native tropicals is wiser??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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