Dave+Amy Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 ...could you remove the eggs and hatch them without the female?? what role does the female play in hatching eggs etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Was told by two different people who've bred them not to tamper or remove the eggs...easier to shift one or both parents. The female can be left in with eggs and sometimes both parents aswell, really depends on the pair...and was told that when fry hatch the Mum is more protective of the fry and sometimes even shifts the fry round in her mouth...so many different stories/ways of breeding I guess it's really just trial and error and lots of patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'm going to have fun shifting the pair into their own tank :roll: probably end up pulling out all the plants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Went looking for mum in the community tank and found her dead...when I fished her out she had a couple of tiny holes in her so am guessing she probably took on someone who fought back..am really gutted. On a happier note...Day 2 and the eggs are still in the breeding tank with other mum steadfastly guarding them and dad looking on from a great distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 I'm sorry for your loss Which tank mate do you think is the culprit?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Thanks! Not sure who the culprit is...maybe clown loaches coz mum took over their cave..the holes were quite tiny, like pin head size, am guessing they weren''t bite marks the dad is swimming round looking for her I'm sure otherwise he's moved on and looking for another mate :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 DaveAmy - you can remove the eggs and raise them artificially just stick an air stone near them for water movement and meth blue or other anti-fungal in the water.. The mothers are usually pretty good however do eat the first few batches you usually dont take them off the parents unless you really really need the babies or the mother has had heaps of goes and failures.. Tracy sorry to hear about your fish, it is very hard to identify what happened from markings on a fish after it is dead as they can usually be from fish who tried to eat the dead fish afterwards.. Glad to hear the other pair are doing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 loaches can be sneaky...one of my glowlights lost an eye overnight but now it's functioning well without it my tank's been delayed - hasn't arrived yet so won't be trying to breed them anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 All eggs eaten, checked tank and no wrigglers either so "never say die", will keep trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLB Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 All eggs eaten, checked tank and no wrigglers either so "never say die", will keep trying Grab an oar...we're in the same boat :lol: I'm sure they'll get the hang of it soon :roll: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid7 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 my pair laid again today the eggs are white though does this mean that they are infertile? What colour are they meant to be? there is about 30 - 40 eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 my pair won't be laying anymore found the male dead under a sword plant this morning. Recently he's been really secretive and hiding and I thought it was only a turf thing with the new Rams in there and on closer inspections he's got a fat belly... Now I'm on a hunt for a male... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Mark...Here's Hoping Cichlid...Both lots of eggs my females have laid were a light brown/terracotta type colour so not sure if that's any help to you Amy & Dave.....BUMMER about your male ...would you like to sell me your female to keep my lonely male company? OR is there anyone out there whose coming down this way who could pleeeease help out Amy & I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 haha yeah anyone out there that has a extra male?? Or one I could use for a one nighter? (lol...depends if they're into each other that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hutt pets have some left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Might have a squizz when I go pick up my new canister...going to have two canisters running on my tank so I can do less water changes in the community tank (thank god) Does Hutt Pets have these Cockatoos?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'm pretty sure they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Sorry to hear about your male I hope you find a good one Remember to qtine all of your fish when you buy them.. I think my female is guarding one or 2 babies still had quite heavy losses though don't really know why though.. It is her first go so will try again later And an extra canaster wont mean less water changes the 2 filters will still convert the same amount of ammonia to the same amount of waste you have to water change out.. Only difference is your water may appear cleaner (less crap floating around) but that is not really why water changes are needed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 but doing over 100L a night on one tank does get tedious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 lol why are you doing 100L a night? Do you have young discus growing out? IMO you do the water changes to remove the nitrates that build up, and with the same bio load (fish) in your tank the same amount of nitrate will be produced justifying the same amount of water changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 well I read this thing about how Discus will release pheromones to suppress other Discus from growing so if the water change is not frequent I'll end up with some runts etc...plus I do feed Beef heart+prawn feed in the morning, NLS pellets in the afternoon and bloodworms at night - so I do water changes everynight to keep my tank clean They're all above 8cm mark and growing well (no runts so far) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 My male is in a 300 x 350 x 350, female died within an hour or so of letting them out. New female coming on Tuesday My new female arrived on the 25th Nov, spawned either on the 30th or 1st dec. Looks to be about 30 - 40 eggs. All good at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Congrats TM....Good Luck Keep us posted!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracytrout Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 3rd Time Lucky Hopefully.....Just noticed that Mum has laid eggs again, this time in the Terracotta Pot so here's hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave+Amy Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Alright Tracy - do you want my female? I haven't had much luck getting another boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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