Guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hi guys, Is there a male and female ratio thats best to have when keeping and breeding WCMM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Not that I am aware of I just have a small tank with some indian fern in it, and I have lots of fry. will post a picture of my tank once I get off my arse. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Should it be floating or plannted? Also I read somewhere that ythey do't need and filteration if you do weekly water changes, is this true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 i use to fill a tank with javamoss add the minnows (pref feed em up prior) and give heaps of livefood/food in general, you should see them spawning and id remove adults 2-3days later then wait for fry, worked well, u could just remove the plants every few days to i geuss. other option make up a box out of mesh (stainless pref) and then you can put fish in that and whey they spawn eggs fall below out of reach of adults, move to new tank every few days (never done this myself but always wanted to try it) or mesh even security screen door mesh across bottom of tank so eggs fall through etc worked well for danios so may work for minnows all fun and games theyre tricky little fish - supposeibly breed like rabbits but i think they eat (fry) like rabbits to. or add male an female to a tank full of plants and it should populate but if your after numbers then best seperate i rekon hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insect Direct Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 to actually anwser your qustions :oops: lol ratio i dunno i just used groups and fry did seem to hang around the top in indian fern and or duckweed but good to have plants below for spawing hence why i just fill tank with javamoss and maybe indian fern ontop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 For my WCMM, I have: Tank Indian fern HOB (Hang on Back filter) Water NO heater. No water changes, just top ups. and I feed them predominantely on Whiteworms Heaps of fry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 My tanks about 10ltrs and it's got a gravel with a spawninbg mop that reaches the top and is fairly(4 who are really big and full of eggs) thick and a lots of little indian ferns planted. I think I got about 9 females (4 who are really big and full of eggs) and about 6 males. Is there anything that triggers them to breed? What should I feed to get them big and fat? I can get a few mossie larvae but thats pretty much the only live food I have. I do have frozen bbs and blood worms but they don't seem to like blood worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Live food and a water temp difference? ie; add colder water than tank temp. Get yourself a whiteworm culture and they'll get fat (or fatter) With a 10ltr tank I wouldnt be putting them all in at once or there wont be much of a chance for the eggs or fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 It's a cold water tank so I don't think I can get it colder. I'm going to keep 6 or 7 in there so it should help the fry survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Yep but even cold water tanks heat up during the warm days and with only a small tank it wont take long to get warm like 18deg. I have a 30ltr in the spare room and it gets to 20deg sometimes. I had 3 fems and 3 males in an 18ltr last year with heaps of java moss and some oxygenating plant (looked like grass) on the bottom. One day i noticed tiny black things stuck to the glass,, then free swimming fry every where. All i did was feed them flake everyday and did a small syphon water change every couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarmina Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 i have 35 WCMM living in a bath tub outside for summer. the only thing i do is the occasional water top up and drop in some flake once in a while. just realised today that there are no plants in there for them to spawn in, so will be getting some later this arvo. last time i did this, i put 6 in and, come time to move them to there winter home, i pulled out 60. also have my golden ones in a tank (full of daphnia) out on the front deck, so hopefully will get some good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 All I'm doing is feeding flake so hopefully that'll be enough. At the moment I'm happ ywith the BNs and killies breeding but I do like the WCMM so hopefully they'll breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spink Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Jeez Cam, did breeding your fighters not put you off! Good on you for your continued enthusiasm, and good luck - I am STILL only able to breed livebearers at this stage, but we'll see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 lol. Hopefully these don't have as many fry as the fighters. My BNs hatched today so I suppose I'll be over run with them :roll: . also my pair of killies are laying about 8 eggs a day :bounce: and I've got heaps of baby platys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Last weekend I gave the WCMM to my friend as I want to close down a few tanks (I was going to get a few of him later on). Anyway I closed down the tank but didn't get round to emptying it. I looked in today and noticed a fry on the side of the tank. I managed to find about 5 but I'm thinking theres more in the mop. What do I do now, How long till there egg sacks gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfisher Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ok so what is a WCMM? :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 white cloud mountain minnow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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