new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Noticed today that my 2nd fluval 404 on my discus tank is not going, have tried everything i can think of to get it started again, but it wont go. No blockages in inlet or outlet hoses.....i get the feeling haloween is playing a part but really need some input please!!! Was going when i did a water change on wednesday.....HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 open the filter, remove the lid ontop of the impeller, give it a clean, and then put it back in... make sure the little black bit at the end is secure (the lille rubber thing). lemme know if that works.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 It is most probably air. If you pump plunger slowly it should come right, if not then prepare your lips and lungs for a mouth full of fishy water YUCK! If it is rattling then the impeller is unseated and needs to be removed and reseated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 thanks but nothing seems to be working, think the gremlins have taken hold! I hate to be a damsel in distress,,,,but i think i'm missing something simple. Maybe i'm being too impatient but they have been easy enough to start in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 is the power on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 What sort of noise is it makng? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 yes, not a silly q...i am a female trying to operate stuff, but have tried priming it while plugged in but still nothing...dont want to leave it plugged in doing nothing! it did stop between now an the last water change, plugged in the whole time. Have taken it apart, cleaned, put back together.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 it is rattling, but not sure if it is just air or the impeller. have tried sucking on the outlet....havn't been able to find the lil gadget to remove the impeller....but wouldn't have thought that it would have changed having not touched the filter before finding out something was up?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 lower the outlet to the ground level IN A Bucket... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 outlet at ground level works great, but put back up to tank level stops again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 yeah, thought so... just let the pressure build up... that's gravity working... if you can clean the impellor; do so... slowly raise the outlet back to the tank once pressure is normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 ok, have tried that, but maybe not slow or patient enough?? would it help if the tank level was lower...higher would prob be better wouldn't it?? just as the outlet is going into a bucket, the tank level drops of course!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discusguru Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I would say the impeller is stuffed If it's rattling and not pumping water .Replace the impeller and it'll go. ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 your impellor isnt able to push the water up into the tank... there could be an airbubble in the filter, or the impelor isnt moving round fast enough. you dont need tools to remove it. should be able to hold the impellor/magnet and pull it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 must be the impeller, cant have been an air bubble could it or it shouldn't have just randomally stopped, cant get the impreller out myself, will take it into someone tomorrow, thank you all...at least its not the only filter on the tank!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Any suggestions on where would be a good place to take it....pupuke? hollywood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 what part of akl u in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Takapuna, north shore.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 go to the animates in glenfield... that's close.. tell them you spoke to someone on here from the palmy store, and ask them to have a look at the filter for you... that may help... =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Thanks, jensens is about 4 mins up the road, will try there...wirau rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix44 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 :bounce: no problem! we're all on here to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 i really do appreciate all the help.....many thanks to all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 now if anyone could cure my hiccups that would be great too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim r Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Holding your breath for 5 mins will cure your hiccups( just joking ),but not advisable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new2discus Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 haha, but thanks for all you help...hopefully tomorrow will bring good times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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