Dixon1990 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Whos got what? Rivulus? Cynolebias? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I've got Austrolebias nigripinnis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 How many you got at the moment? Are they the ones you keep getting belly sliders from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 How many you got at the moment? Are they the ones you keep getting belly sliders from? I have a large breeding pair, and eggs Everyone gets a few belly sliders from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 Hi Evil Species police again :lol: There are to my knowledge No Cynolebias species in the country. The Nigripinnis are Austrolebias > Austrolebias Nigripinnis Stu NZKA Species Controller 215 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 LOL! what was i thinking? austrolebias, of course :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 :lol: Love your avatar. I had 60 hatch a few days back. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: I just realised this is my 1000th post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted May 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 There are to my knowledge No Cynolebias species in the country. The Nigripinnis are Austrolebias > Austrolebias Nigripinnis Even i knew that lol... That is the species i want to get a pair of them to breed when you killie people get the population up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I belive that in the forseeable future, they will only be made available to members that have a solid breeding program with proven success in peat spawning. We just cant afford for these to disappare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I am pretty sure I had cynolobias about 30 years ago. Not much colour but fancy fins as I recall. One of the problems with fish like this is that no one wants to buy them so people lose interest in breeding them. Having said that, does anyone have walkeri? --they are a nice looking fish I had then also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 No Alan but they are on the list and Ive been talking to your people and they are willing to help so in the near future (or when they next import) with a bit of luck we may get them here again. The others that they had had "disapared" so no luck there but as I said, they have been really helpfull There is a few Nothos on the list that look exciting as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 The two importers I have been speaking to including "my people" have brought in nothos before and always lost them so were not keen. If you can get them to then good luck. As you say there are some good ones about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Alan When the comes I will be talking salt big time to them It would (of course) be at our risk but I think it will be worth trying at least. In the past I simply have not bred enough quickly enough and have passed on too many eggs so thats another thing I may need to talk to them about. If they could put peat in with them straight away when they arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I discussed velvet with him and he was aware of it and their sensitivity to chelated copper, copper and malachite. He said he would treat with acraflavine but was sure that velvet was not the problem. Acraflavine can cause temporary sterility. I am not sure what the problem is. I think it may depend on where they originate from because I think part of the problem with imported guppies is that they are kept in ponds close to the sea where there is sea water ingress and we put them into fresh water. The temperatures in Asia are often a bit much for killies I think and that was why I was hoping to get some in from Germany. Might have to give that idea a bit of a push. Importing is getting harder and I think the number of importers is going to decrease rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I haven't discussed it but if it was me I would be seperating the sexes to take pressure of if I knew they were hard to keep alive. He said he just lost one every few days for no obvious reason until they all carked. It would cost a packet to get them tested and they don't always get it right. When I imported goldfish they told me that some very healthy fish had Tb and wouldn't believe the ones that were dying actually had it. Someone stuffed the labels I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dixon, what i'd suggest for you to do is first of all join the NZKA, then obtain some mop spawners to start off with, and practice breeding them, raising fry, and all the other things we need to know how to do, then get some species of peat spawners (the more common, easier to breed ones) and get used to breeding them, storing eggs at the correct temp for the correct time period, hatching the eggs then raising the fry, and once you have done that heaps with the easier species you may well be lucky enough to get some of the rarer species. At this stage, the chances of a non-NZKA person getting nigs is about nil unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted May 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dixon, what i'd suggest for you to do is first of all join the NZKA, then obtain some mop spawners to start off with, and practice breeding them, raising fry, and all the other things we need to know how to do, then get some species of peat spawners (the more common, easier to breed ones) and get used to breeding them, storing eggs at the correct temp for the correct time period, hatching the eggs then raising the fry, and once you have done that heaps with the easier species you may well be lucky enough to get some of the rarer species. At this stage, the chances of a non-NZKA person getting nigs is about nil unfortunately. That is what i have been told my Barrie, and i plan on doing this once i have got my tang and my discus tanks setup,and sorted out the others to make room for some smaller breeding tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 At this stage, the chances of a non-NZKA person getting nigs is about nil unfortunately. Its possible now, but i dont want to get them without any experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Dixon I suggest you get some nothos and breed them a few times In not sure if there are any Notho breeders down your way although Im putting the presure on Alan Wise decision though and I congratulate you on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Im not setup right now, and wont be for a few months, but once i am, i will try get some nothos and breed them. Still got some projects to do- Discus Tank Nano Marine tank Possibly breed Cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 if its closer to summer, I can send you some eggs down but I think they will freeze for the next few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted June 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Summer sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 If dixon (or any other club members) are keen to have a go at the nothos I am happy to help. I have bred thousands of them but am not geared up for them now. Make sure that if you sell them to the shops (or anyone)you advise the need for salt or they get velvet and get a bad rap. That then makes it hard to sell all killies. If you are breeding successfully you have to sell them as you can't carry them around in the boot of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 correct Alan and you need to be a member of the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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