anal fin Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 My anoemone seems to do wierd things like turn it self inside out, some days its tenticles are really small and other days they are huge, but I dont think its doing to well at the moment, any ideas why its going crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 You should really continue from your original post 'my first Anemone'. As per my reply, Anemones are VERY HARD to keep, and should not be attempted unless you can provide adiquite water flow, light and prestine water conditions. If its turning itself inside out, then its a sign of agitation. Basically its very unhappy. A common problem with anemones and poor/inadiquite conditions. Did you get a positive ID? If its a H. Magnificia you have about a 1 in 100 chance of keeping it for over a year. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I want to (eventually) get an anenome for my clowns once Ive got more live rock and some better water flow. whats the "easiest" of anenomes to keep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 You could try maybe something like a sarcophyton as a substitute. They're significantly easier to keep, at least apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 IRA - sarcophyton sp. are corals and not anemones. They also look nothing like anemones. They are failry easy to keep, but they get massive. The problem with clownfish living in corals is that the coral does't like it. An anemone has tenticles, with a mouth in the center, a coral has polyps with mouths on the end. Also when 1 polyp retracts in a colony, all polyps retract. I added the anemone to my tank to save my Sacrophyton coral. Some people belive there are problems keeping leather corals and stoney corals together, I belive this to be true. A clown fish will eventually find something to live in, but often to the detriment of that animal. No anemones are considered 'easy', because they walk around and get killed by pumps. Only add an anemone is you can provide the conditions it requires, which should start with a positive ID before you start. Many people think that bubble tip anemones are easier to keep than the others, some belive the LTA are easy. Check the links I posted in the original post for details on care and suitability. Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anal fin Posted May 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 By all accounts it has spit its gutts/food out its not a happy wee fellow its crazy it was doing really well up untill mid afternoon yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 any chance you fed it recently, as if they arent hungry they will spit out half digegsted food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 Anal Fin - This is the big challenge with livestock for marines. There are many stages for many animals other than initial introduction. For example it can take a Mandarin fish over 6 months to starve to death. My Cleaner Wrassee took over 3 months to die. Leapord Wrasse don't seem to live over 9 months in captivity. Anemones can live over 100 years in the wild, yet survival is less than 3 months of many anemones in captivity. There is a way to increase your chance of have a long lived anemones (JetskiSteve has one in his tank over 12 years old!, his friend has one about the same age). Perfect water quality, a very mature aquairum, lots of current, lots of light. Some anemones H.Magnificia require many clowns to live in them to 'groom and feed' themselfs. These anemones have almost 0 survival in captivity without clownfish. This doesn't apply for all other anemones though. If its still alive maybee you can find someone with a marine tank (and an anemone already?) who would take it for a while, giving it a chance to become stronger before re-introducing back into your tank. I really hope it lives. I suggest in the future you research your live stock before you buy it. One of the best things to do is to build a 'stock list' and stock to it, dont buy anything not on your list. I am doing this now, which I had done it from the start. when I setup the new tank their are a few fish that are not going into my new tank. good luck Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 lack of water movement will kill anemoes, happens all the time, give it heaps of water movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 yes, I know they're not an anemone, Pies. but, they look vaguely similar(ok, very vaguely) when small IMO anyway and sometimes clowns host in them. Most importantly, they're a lot easier to keep and stay put. Which is why I said SUBSTITUTE for an anemone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anal fin Posted May 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 I hope it lives to but I think thats out of my hands now, maybe i'm out of my league when it comes to marine ( went to fast to quick ) or just poor management. But whatever may come of it Im up to the challange and will continue to educate myself as best I can with the help of your knowledge and others. I hate the idea so something getting the best of me but most of all I feel bad about killing my poor anoemone. He was a happy yet funny wee anoenome I hope he finds peace in anoemone hevean with all the other poor dearly departed salty friends, rest in peace my little friend rest in peace.... " A moment of silence please " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 yes, I know they're not an anemone, Pies. but, they look vaguely similar(ok, very vaguely) when small IMO anyway and sometimes clowns host in them. Most importantly, they're a lot easier to keep and stay put. Ira - I find your advice comical considering you don't have, nor have you ever kept either. Do you even know what a sacrophyton coral looks like? I have provided a picture for you. The only thing this coral and an anemone have in common is that they are both slimey, wet and live in saltwater... Pies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 It was just a thought, Pies, pull the stick out of your ass and find someone else to vent your pent up hostility at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 It was just a thought, Pies, pull the stick out of your ass and find someone else to vent your pent up hostility at. I wasn't being hostile, I don't have a stick up my ass, I don't have any pent up hostility and if I was venting at you, you would know it. I was just pointing out that your advice was, in all fairness to it, idiotic. If it has been anyone else I would have said the same thing. So stop crying, pieman didn't mean to upset little widdle Ira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Pies, that pic doesn't look like a sacrophyton to me! Looks more like a lobophytum. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 dear god,... i can just see it now - the perfect married couple, ira in a checkered brown '70's tux and pies in a satin white wedding dress,... gazing into each others eyes standing proudly at the alter... "oh pie man, we must stop bickering like this, we're about to get married" "oh im sorry ira, you know you are my widdle wee idiotic man" lord of the ringpiece! ha ha haaaaa!!! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Sports Cafe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Hahahaaa, just picture it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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