yarimochi Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 WOW STUNNING FISH Yes I know, I recommend these to everyone. They are soooo cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Are they a marine fish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesejawa Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Are they a marine fish? In with sliver dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Haha no they arent. People think they are becuase they are so stunning but they are actually a man-made (i think) variant of the normal Jack Dempsey. You should get one as I hear you like cichlids and these are the holy grail of cichlids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 i would how much are they?would they nstand up to my oscars like my 10cm peach chiclid dose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted January 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 $60-80, fine with oscars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 what are they caleld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Tomorrow is blue jack dempsey purchasing day! :roll: :roll: :roll: I'm not so sure about them being fine with oscars, from what I've heard they lack some of the aggression of the normal JD. That one looks like it could be an arowana/bichir snack very soon if it doesn't grow fast. Maybe its just the photos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 here is mine 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 WOW!! Thats a beautiful fish, hope mine'll be like that one day. He ate a mosquito fish today which I found in a stream. Is there any risk of disease with these fish?? And no, he is definetely too big to fit it the mouth of any arowana of bichir at their current size. And being around 25cm in the future I am pretty sure he is going to be fine. And he was bought from a tank with two oscars so he is also oscar safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 fyi 8) http://bluejax.co.uk/default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 fyi 8) http://bluejax.co.uk/default.aspx Cool website, now Im completely unsure as to what they are: hybrid or recessive allele, oh well. Still beautiful. Im also stilll unsure regarding the date when I pick up my Asian arowana... Water is stil slightly cloudy which is really starting to get to me. WHY IS IT STILL CLOUDY!? Is it that TLC stuff? My ammonia and nitrites are all 0 or very very close to it and my pH is around 6.5-7. I dont think Ill be getting anymore spikes with that so Im feeling a little more confident about picking him up. What do y'all think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Cool website, now Im completely unsure as to what they are: hybrid or recessive allele, oh well. Still beautiful. Im also stilll unsure regarding the date when I pick up my Asian arowana... Water is stil slightly cloudy which is really starting to get to me. WHY IS IT STILL CLOUDY!? Is it that TLC stuff? My ammonia and nitrites are all 0 or very very close to it and my pH is around 6.5-7. I dont think Ill be getting anymore spikes with that so Im feeling a little more confident about picking him up. What do y'all think. If you're really worried about clarity buy some jbl clear mec or my personal favorite sechem's purigen. The latter can be recharged once it's exhusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Isn't that treating the symptom and not the cause? If you're really worried about it then don't pick the fish up. No chemical can make up for time when it comes to cycling/establishing a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Isn't that treating the symptom and not the cause? If you're really worried about it then don't pick the fish up. No chemical can make up for time when it comes to cycling/establishing a tank. Depends, If his cycle is finished and all he's worried about is turbity a polisher is treating the problem. Clermec and Purigen are not chemicals either they are resins that act like carbon but are more targeted, ie they won't remove things like iron which is useful for plants. They also last a lot longer than carbon. Clear mec will last several months and purigen can be used again and again after recharging with bleech and ph buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candy Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 How are the fish doing? Any new pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz_Nomad Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Clermec and Purigen are not chemicals Anything not naturally found in the water is a chemical. purigen can be used again and again after recharging with bleech and ph buffer. And bleach and pH buffer aren't chemicals? I say leave the tank another week and see if the problems clear up with more cycling time and good size water changes. Cloudy water is usually caused by bacterial blooms and it usually clears in time anyway. Alternatively, run a UV filter for a day or three, though you shouldn't really when using TLC to cycle. I believe the instructions say turn off UV filtration for three days or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastables Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Anything not naturally found in the water is a chemical. And bleach and pH buffer aren't chemicals? Anything not naturally found in water is a chemical..... Right. You mean like sinctred glass that we use to build bactria conlonies is a chemical? or the glass sides of the aquarium they're chemicals as well? Filter floss, spoge pads they're all checmicals too under this definitions Asinine. Bleach and ph buffer or nutraliser is to make the resin inert again so it can start removing and polishing the water again= INERT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 :roll: Chemical or not, my point is still the same, and that is if he's worried about how established the bio filtration is then he should wait. It may seem cycled with the light load that is in there now, but if you add a hungry 8" aro and start feeding it high protein meaty foods 3 times a day will the bacteria keep up? The whole set up is still fairly new, so you want to gradually increase the bio load until you're confident the filtration can keep up. You could waste money on "products" (not chemicals...) to try to hurry the process up, but at the end of the day is it worth the risk when you're dealing with a $2k fish.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I like your wise words David R and I shall follow them. Sorry Candy, no updates right now, just monitering and testing my water and wishing the cloudiness would go away but after reading the last few posts I think it is becuase of a bacterial bloom and I shall wait for another week to see how things go then you guys can see some photos of an asian aro in lots of space!! BTW, does anyone know roughly how many asian arowanas are in NZ? Has anyone else got one on this forum or am I special? :bounce: Thanks for the interest and help. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I like your wise words David R and I shall follow them. :oops: aww schucks, just don't hold me responsible if it doesn't work... :lol: Saw your fish at HFF Albany today, I'm jealous! I remember Jansens brought in a few (~10?) a few years back, a mix of gold and rtg, not sure how many are kicking around still. I wonder what the average life span of an arowana is? I wonder if my old black aro is still around somewhere, I sold it in 2002 when I'd had it for a bit over two years, so it would be ~8 now and probably quite a good size as it was nearly 2' when I sold it! /hijack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon1990 Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I wonder if my old black aro is still around somewhere, I sold it in 2002 when I'd had it for a bit over two years, so it would be ~8 now and probably quite a good size as it was nearly 2' when I sold it! Do you remember who you sold it to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naz_Nomad Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Anything not naturally found in water is a chemical..... Right. You mean like sinctred glass that we use to build bactria conlonies is a chemical? or the glass sides of the aquarium they're chemicals as well? Filter floss, spoge pads they're all checmicals too under this definitions Asinine. Pedantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Jansens Mt Eden, along with a 14" fire eel and a couple of uaru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarimochi Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 So no one else on this forum? It would be kinda cool to be the only one LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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