evilknieval69 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Finally got around to setting it up. Only filled it up late last week, and at the moment have got a few guppys in there just to make sure everything is fine. The plan is to then introduce my pair of brichardi, and two hoplos, then a couple weeks later introduce the 18 Demasoni. Plan is to have heaps of demasoni eventually (hoping for around 35 ish), and then only keep the two hoplos (because this is my largest tank and i want them to have the space - also so they can clean up the bottom a bit. I am also putting in my brichardi pair because i dont think they will get picked on in such a big tank, and because it means that i dont have to have another tank running just for them I still want to put a bit more rock in, and i also have a couple swords to put in aswell. Theres a big stocking full of coral sand in the external filter which is keeping the pH steady at around 7.6 (which is what i want it at) I still need to get a big black piece of paper or cloth for the backing, and i also need to position the piece of wood with the java moss and java fern on it (the one in front of the rock in the middle) in some place better. And incase some of you didn't see the last pictures i posted of the dems then heres a couple for ya They have almost doubled in size since those photos though, the biggest ones pushing 3cm now! Can't wait to get them into the big tank!!! Any criticism/comments/feedback etc would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Wow - neat! :bounce: :bounce: I'm curious - what size is the tank (length/width stuff not litres) and also why are you putting in plants with Rift lake Africans? I thought they wouldn't cope with the fish/pH. ? I really like the idea of that many of demasoni - should be a great looking tank. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Hey thanks! Tank is 1300 x 450 x 600. Was specially made to fit a certain space for someone, then i bought it off them (thats why its 1300 long - odd length) Plants are fine with some africans, but not with most of them. Demasoni are vegetarians, so may pick at them, but dont seem to do alot of damage too them. The tank they are in now has a tiger lotus and java moss and fern in it, and all the plants seem to survive absolutely fine. The water parameters aren't too different from your normal planted tank setup. pH is only about 7.6 which is pretty sweet for most plants. I haven't gone with any stem plants as they aren't quite as hardy as swords etc, but they may work HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Cool, thanks. That is a nice size tank. I had heard of using val but not the others - seems like it really is a question of research, research, then trial and error! After my jungle-like planted tanks, I'm looking forward to a simple rock tank! :lol: Keep us posted on how the fish settle and the tank develops! :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktttk Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Nice looking setup there evil! What substrate are you using in the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Thanks kenneth! Substrate is just plain old brightwater gravel. Its looks a bit wierd in the tank because there were hundreds of air bubbles all over it when i took the photo :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingart Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 tank looks good evil the only thing missing from the tank is a duck :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 good job evil the fish look so good in the tank how many are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Lol mark! i'll have to come catch one sometime.... easy peasy :lol: Oscarboy, I have 18 Demasoni at the moment, but will be getting more eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 are they the only fish in the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 They aren't in the big tank yet. They are in a smaller 50L tank at the moment because they are still small. They are the only fish in the 50L, but once they go into the 350L they will be with two hoplos and 2 brichardi (pulchars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Ok, snice i have knowing about these cichlid i have always thought like a 500L tank would look awsome with just them in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Yeah a tank full of demasoni would be awesome im pretty happy with how my 12 look in with the other fish.. Have considered growing out a heap of babies lol but don't have the time/energy at the moment and have to cut back to one tank soonish. Evil - the tanks looking good I bet you cant wait to get the fish in there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Yea man, busting at the seams to get them in there!!! :lol: Im gunna be buying at least another 18 of them early next year sometime, then it will be a tank full of Dems! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Another 18 That will be an awesome tank.. Did you want ones from a different gene pull or more off me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 lol just full the tank with the little things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Dunno, probably off you, thats if you are still in the country at the time :lol: When are you going to timor? But yea, if you have some at the time then i will probably get them from you. As long as they aren't from the same batch they should be sweet breeding together, its just brothers and sisters that won't be good. Either way, if i get bad fry, i cull them easy as that. Its going to have LOTS of dems haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 evil do u reckn it looks good? and yea i reckon lots of them would look so cool especially if you could get diff colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Im off half way through Jan.. My wife has made noises about maybe keeping the demasoni going while im over there, only time will tell on that one.. Im undecided on the whole inbreeding thing have done a bit of research and some have suggested that it makes no difference.... However my dominant male is a survivor from my first attempt at demasoni (brought 6 had him left) and is unrelated to the females.. And I have 2 unrelated females in the mix too one I can tell but the other who knows.. Imagine how many dem's you will have once they start breeding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Imagine how many dem's you will have once they start breeding Heh Can't wait :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 are the dems easy to breed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 They're moutnbrooders so yea, its just getting the females to hold long enough (which i guess they will after a couple trys usually) and then you either let them spit the babys when they're ready, or you pull her out and strip her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 sounds easy enough lol and thanks so much 4 the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Easy to breed a dammed bugger to strip because they're soooo tiny, most of mine held full term first time holding 10-20 babies each time.. Really really hard to strip and catch though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 yea well thats what you have to do if you want to breed em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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