tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 hahaa, dunno where you got a "768" from, you're clearly looking at the wrong thread I know it was alot more than that so I checked, if you really must know it has just over 44,000 views halfway down the page "Sump room, new tank etc" here: http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/35-vf5 ... start=1700 a little before your time it seems conch 768 replies (cf views). Man, what a sad bunch we are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Ooops! 56 pages now :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 But is it still on subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 768 replies (cf views). Man, what a sad bunch we are! yeah, you had to check But is it still on subject? hahaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Anyway, to get back to the subject, if I stick a sump on the RSM how much lighting do I need on it? Do I need any at all? I just want to grow pods rather than make an all out refugium - your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmxmatt Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Seeing that I only ever see my pod activity at night, I wouldn't imagine you'd need much light. Maybe one of those cheap 9W hang on bulbs that just replicate day/night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Yea - or else I thought I might talk to Zhaque about whether or not I could daisy-chain a few more LEDs of the existing circuit so that they are switched by the RSM's timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puttputt Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 If it's just a sump, no lights are fine. If you are trying to get a refugium going, then you'll need lights if you want algaes to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Well, I have Mandarin eggs. They did their little dance again last night and released a lot of very small eggs... then they both went back to the rockwork for a cigarette. lol! Here is some light reading and pics and video to drool over... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... genumber=1 The thread is 40 pages long and has been split 'due to performance issues' into another thread which is linked at the last page... hope you don't have too much work you should be doing today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Well, I've built one, but I can't say that I'm overly enthusiastic about the intake side of things, so I've decided to abandon gravity / water weight power and just use a double peristaltic pump to drive the water in both directions - safe, simple, reliable (expensive). I don't think that is a good plan. Better to really try & sort some kind of gravity outlet. But congrats on the manderin eggs. I am sure you have achieved far more with many things in your RSM, than most of us have with our larger tanks. Any plans for the eggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 I don't think that is a good plan. Better to really try & sort some kind of gravity outlet. I might just have to drill an overflow of some sort in the back. I'm a little reluctant to do so in case of disaster, but it would solve a few problems. But congrats on the manderin eggs. I am sure you have achieved far more with many things in your RSM, than most of us have with our larger tanks. Any plans for the eggs? I like the IDEA of raising them, but I very much doubt that I will be able to. I simply don't have time to do it properly. I'm actually in the process of reducing the number of tanks / fish I have, so gearing up to raise them doesn't really fit into my 'glorious 5 year plan'. That said, what is the difference between a sump and a fry tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Have you considered a weir overflow? Some people hate them because drilling is better, but if drilling is not an option a weir overflow can be the best next option. You just hang them over the back of the tank and away they go. They are designed so the syphon cannot be broken. IE, if there is a powercut and the return pump stops working, once the level in the main tank drops to the bottom of the weir intake, water stops flowing through it, so you don't get a flood. But the syphon is not broken, once the power comes back on, the water in the main tank rises, and the weir starts up again. There is some info in this thread http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/hang-o ... 28312.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 lol! Here is some light reading and pics and video to drool over... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... genumber=1 The thread is 40 pages long and has been split 'due to performance issues' into another thread which is linked at the last page... hope you don't have too much work you should be doing today? Thanks for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Have you considered a weir overflow? Some people hate them because drilling is better, but if drilling is not an option a weir overflow can be the best next option. You just hang them over the back of the tank and away they go. They are designed so the syphon cannot be broken. IE, if there is a powercut and the return pump stops working, once the level in the main tank drops to the bottom of the weir intake, water stops flowing through it, so you don't get a flood. But the syphon is not broken, once the power comes back on, the water in the main tank rises, and the weir starts up again. There is some info in this thread http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/hang-o ... 28312.html Actually I think that is what I might have built (I just worked from a picture posted on another site) - maybe with a bit more tuning it might be a go-er afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 lol! Here is some light reading and pics and video to drool over... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... genumber=1 The thread is 40 pages long and has been split 'due to performance issues' into another thread which is linked at the last page... hope you don't have too much work you should be doing today? Ahhh don't read that. It's 80 pages and the author gets banned from RC. In the end he doesn't raise any. Update to his progress is he is still trying to raise them and has had no luck yet. They are extremely difficult to raise. I like the IDEA of raising them, but I very much doubt that I will be able to. I simply don't have time to do it properly. I'm actually in the process of reducing the number of tanks / fish I have, so gearing up to raise them doesn't really fit into my 'glorious 5 year plan'. That said, what is the difference between a sump and a fry tank? Sump = Has heater, skimmer, live rock, water throughput Fry Tank = Water, Heater, Phytoplankton (enough so the tank is tinted green/brown depends on strain), Rotifers (5/ml+ to feed the fry). Airstone for ciculation because this won't damage the fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 It was a semi-rhetorical question. I don't intend to try and breed Mandarins - I'm simply not in a position to do it. Its a shame I can't send you the eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Bah! Double post :bounce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 who changed the name of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 I did. I can change it back if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zev Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 who changed the name of the thread He only did that so that you can't grizzle about anything being off topic!! I like the IDEA of raising them, but I very much doubt that I will be able to. I simply don't have time to do it properly. I'm actually in the process of reducing the number of tanks / fish I have, so gearing up to raise them doesn't really fit into my 'glorious 5 year plan' Just think of all the pairs of shoes you could buy the missus with the money you could make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannet Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 is this the longest post every? 57 pages wow... so wats the happs of the last 57 pages in a nut shell so i dont have to read it again lol, i got lost at page 35-40 sumthng i thnk lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Not a chance. First fish I breed isn't going to be a Mandarin. Thats like starting out sky diving by jumping out of a space shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tHEcONCH Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 is this the longest post every? 57 pages wow... so wats the happs of the last 57 pages in a nut shell so i dont have to read it again lol, i got lost at page 35-40 sumthng i thnk lol Executive Summary pages 1-20 In response to accusations of being a troll, some guy posts a few pictures of his RSM and some discussion ensues pages 21-33 More pictures and discussion vaguely related to the RSM 'n stuff pages 34-55 Discussions about RSMs, modifications, Mandarins, frags, and random musings pages 55-56 Thread has a 'mid-life crisis' prompting a retrospective within the thread on itself by various contributors. pages 57- Back to the RSM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 you would need a deep tank to breed mandarins wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 you would need a deep tank to breed mandarins wouldn't you? Nope? RSM is fine for their mating dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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