Kezza Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Help please: This fella was sold to me as a dominant male "socofoli" and being a green horn I didn't question the sale assistants call at the time After a bit of research I'm thinking trewavasae? what are your guys and gals thoughts? if it isn't socofoli what would should I do?.....there are 5, what I assume, are female socofoli(?) in the tank (see below pic) or at least they all look identical - should I get more trewavasae or try and catch him out and return him/her and seek a replacement male Socofoli if that is the case or leave 'him' to a life of bachelorhood? Next question: is this likely to be a male Demosoni? the others in the tank have much less "black" and have less bold blue bars and finally: Should the belows Electrics Yellow pearantage be called in to question? (ie) interbred perhaps or just a variation? it has quite a lot of "brown" colouration on it's shoulders and flanks - the other Yellas in the tank do not. advice if it is a dirty ol crossbreed please? I'm not worried unless it is likely to cause natural defectsin any potential offspring. and that is all for now.....legends!! Please excuse the quality of the pixs...still trying to get tank photography sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Pic one is a red top trewvassae. Second is a sacoloffi, they can be hard to sex, usually a male will be bigger and have more black in his fins maybe more solid egg spots. Third looks to be dominant male demasoni, I also found these hard to sex but generally females were smaller and slightly less colourful. Last pic just looks like a poor quality yellow, could be hybrid but shape looks alright, if it breeds it will pass poor colouration onto any offspring if it breeds.. Hope thats some help to you and the pics look awesome very easy to see what your looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 thanks heaps for the reply...fantastic stuff!! So what in your opinion should I do about the red top trewvassae?...get him/her some playmates or take him/her back to the shop? I guess it's only fair that I at least tell the shop what happened? One more thing...just pinched some filter sponge out of my daughters 27lt neon tank and put it in the cichlid filter to hopefully introduce and speed up the filters cycle.....I assume the bacteria is the same for both tanks? as they say a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing! anyhoo.....appreciate your comments re: photography also....I'm going to try some tripod and macro shots as well...stay tuned!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I dont know how big your tank is etc.. You could try and have both the trewvassae and the sacoloffi in the same tank but it may not work.. Its upto you really give it a go and see what happens I had a big red top once and he was real nasty so got rid of him but yeah can only see what happens. Bacteria should be the same would hold off adding more fish if you haven't cycled your tank properly though you might loose them all if you do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 thanks again... it's 300lt and all the tank tests are all sweet as....was going to wait for at least another 14 days b4 adding more fish, just filling in the time between really and trying the gleen as much info for experienced types as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caryl Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Pinching filter media from an established tank is an excellent way to help the bacteria. As to photography, as much light in the tank as possible, turn the room lights off, use a tripod or sit the camera on something solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 I agree with Ryan on all the ID's. The yellow looks a little suss, how big is it? Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezza Posted August 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 4/5cms I guess....maybe the cat should dine well tonight!? :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Yeah personally id get rid of it, take it back to where you got it from and get a refund! lol Or bounce it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hard call but agree with ryan on the "yellow lab". There are some grubby ones out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakyfish Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Yes the yellow is alittle grubby Id say poor breeding so far But I have had a really bad yellow in the shop that bred and the fry were all a great colour Id say more then likely the fry you will get wont be much good but it isnt always the case Brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 I bet I have seen the worst looking electric yellows. Apart from Brad, who has seen the same ones. :roll: It is not photo shopped, they are that bad, dull etc.... Now that I have seen the yellow in the opening post on a different computer. It just looks like a not so high a quality one. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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