evilknieval69 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Hey guys. I am wanting to take the plunge and setup a tank for some africans ( i know, what am i thinking?!?!?! :lol: ) but have a couple questions. I did a bit of reading through old posts but thought id better confirm.... I have a spare tank here which is aprox 750 x 300 x 450 (l x w x h) that im thinking of using. Ive read that a pair of neolamprologus brichardi (sp?) would be sweet in a two footer so was hoping to get some of them, plus i quite like the electric yellows so wouldnt mind getting a couple of them. So my question is, would 3 brichardi and 3 e. yellows be sweet in a tank that size? Should there be more? less? comments???? No doubt ill get hooked and setup a bigger tank in the future anyway but ya gotta start somewhere :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smidey Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 i have done that, started a trial tank & am now completely hooked on africans. I am in the process of getting together all the equipment for my new 4 footer. I currently have 5 fryeri, 3 e yellows, 2 red zebras & 2 cobalt zebras. they are all about two inches long & they are in a two footer 24Lx20Hx12D. they have enough room for now. the only setup difference between my african & community tank is crushed marble as a substrate to raise the ph a bit. my ph is around 7.8 & they do well. I do recommend a high filtration rate, I have a cf1000 on my +-100L african tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 They would be sweet in that tank.. However people dont recommend mixing the tangs and malawi's together, and if your brichardi pair off they will get pretty nasty probably destroying the 3rd and generally making live hell for the rest of the fish.. Yes a pair goes fine in a 2ft together but thats one pair only with no other fish.. Of course you could get all males or all female brichardi and then you would get away with it. You tank is pretty small but you can add more fish than what your planning and get away with it, bearing in mind most africans will outgrow that sized tank.. I guess you could do yellows and demasoni and your brichardi (providing they dont pair off..). Maybe a pair of peacocks or something like that too but your tank is a bit on the smaller side. Thats just my 2cents worth anyway im sure others will come on and start a discussion Good luck im sure you will enjoy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Ohk not too clued up on tangs, malawis etc. I realy want some brichardis, maybe just a pair, but then what would be another couple africans i could put with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 ha- read the latest TFH mag have you Evil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Wow evil where has the "Africans suck" guy gone! :lol: Great to see you have developed a special taste :lol: Brichardi are excellent for people to start out with, fantastic to watch rear their young.. they live in mass families in the wild, hundreds of fish school together in one mass colony... A couple will pair off.. and go off to breed in a selected spot.. they will protect the eggs and young when hatched and once the fry are free swimming and venture from the rocks the rest of the Brichardi will help keep an eye on them while mum and dad go and have a snack. I have had a tank full of Brichardi and they have bred readily and all been as happy as larry in a family unit. The only time the pair will be snakey is when the eggs are laid and the fry just hatched... in a 2ft tank I would always say just a pair.. due to the fact of space and needing space for the fry to grow on, they can have rather a few fry in one go. Brichardi will get nasty with other species of fish tho when spawning. With regards to your question in regards to 3 Brichardi, if you have enough space in your tank, 3 should be fine. I acquired a trio of Daffodil Pulcher adults, 2 males 1 female... they constantly produce and the third male has never been picked on, once babies are up and about, the spare male is included in watching over the fry also. He just keeps his space till the babies are out in the open. Let us know what you start with, exciting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 ha- read the latest TFH mag have you Evil? ah, nope :lol: whys that? Wow evil where has the "Africans suck" guy gone! :lol: Haha i know!! hes gone on holiday..... 8) Great to see you have developed a special taste :lol: Just taste testing ATM Thanks for all the other info Mekhaela, Might just start with a trio? of brichardi then if i decide i need more/have room for more, then il see what other species will co-exist with them. Maybe just more brichs? lol Needa wait till the fishrooms ready (next week!!!) then ill get them going! More ideas on what will go with them would be great too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I doubt you would get away with having yellows in that size of tank either with the brichardis. As with the above comments, just go the brichardis for now. All should be sweet. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Would lionheads go with Brichardi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Who knows, It is all trial & error. Having said that, it would probably be fine at the start as juvies. But, your tank would be to small down the track once fish were bigger, paired off etc. Frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Demasoni, they wouldnt go with brichardis right? because they are Mbuna and brichs are tangs.. that right? What would you reccomend? 3 brichardis or 3 demasoni... im quite liking both to be honest :lol: (what are you saying Rogan?!?!?! ) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'm going to follow your progress on this with interest as I want to get into some electric yellows etc. Just found out though that I'll have to wait until next year to get started - hubby wants to go away for three or so weeks at Christmas time. I'll just have to get everything ready instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 3 demasoni are a bad idea! I had 6 at one stage and ended up with 2 big males the biggest male scraps with every other fish and you need a few to spread the load.. I have 12 now and they're sweet hopefully they will start breeding soon! You could do a few maybe 8 demasoni and some electric yellows or something like that.. If I was going for brichardi or something like that and I was intent on mixing it with mbuna, I would get one only (or even a pulcher because they're alot nicer) and mix it with mbuna, that way it should stay relatively passive and not pair off and you can still enjoy the fish.. Pretty much any african stocking list is an experiment you get rouge fish or things and dont work so all you can do is try it and have a spare tank or divider or breeding trap or something to separate any fish that get beaten up (or beat everything up int he tank) so you can re-home them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malawi_man Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I had 10 demasoni in a grow out tank, left them for a while, counted them the other day, down to 5!!! no other fish in that tank have died for ages. Quite disappointing as they are real kool looking fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Ohk, will stick with the Brichardis for now then. Have found a place to buy some so will hopefully get some next weekend.... Gotta move the fish that are currently residing in the 120L tank into another couple tanks in the fishroom then chuck my coral rock etc in.... then ill be ready for some nice Africans Im gunna put a BN or two with the brichardis aswell, that will be fine aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Yeah they are sweet with african's seem to do well in the high ph etc, mine breed regularly in my display tank I think your supposed to have a little piece of wood in there for them some of my tanks don't and they seem to do alright and grow and that but yeah its what people say Good luck with the brichardi they're cool fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Sweet. i will chuck a little bit of wood in there for the BN, just to give them something to suck on. Wont alter pH much, especially since im gunna have coral rock and coral sand in there i spose :lol: Thanks for the help guys/girls... i will post pics once everythings up and running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickindip Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Your wanting brichardi ??? ... check out http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/brichardi-and-babies-vt22995.html PM me if interested cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mntcol Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 I had Malawi's in blue and yellow. Other African's eg Electric yellow in a large tank. All was good until my blue grew to a couple of inches long, then it took out most of it's tank mates. African's are fantastic fish to keep. Some just get way too aggressive. I sold my tank to someone here on the forum on January this year. I have marines, but I miss the tropical fish tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Thanks lickindip but ive already got some lined up for a pretty good price and they are local so i can pickup which is a bonus. I will probably get them next weekend hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickindip Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 ull like the little guys .... ive seen a very similar fish to the brichardi but there fins are yellow, woulda paid through the nose for them what price/size have u got urs lined up for? if they ever start breeding id advise you to tank out ANY other fish in the tank .... theyll heard the others into a corner and if they come out theyll be toast (experience talking ) gd luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilknieval69 Posted July 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 what price/size have u got urs lined up for? $10 each, 2-3cm......... shipping is a killer if i got from elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickindip Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 yea shipping is a bit of an ass not a bad price ... i paid round $37EACH for a trio of breeding adults and since ive had them they killed of one of the males but still spitting out the babies :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiden Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 The yellow finned ones are called Neolamprologus Pulcher or Daffodil for short there is a few people that have them on the forum. Afrikan is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickindip Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 what type of price and where could i get some Neolamprologus Pulcher from? would they go well with my breeding brichardi of would they fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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