snookie Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 whats the difference between a Panaque and a pleco ? whole new world to me :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 snookie whats the difference between a Panaque and a pleco ? Hope this makes sense. To quote from a popular online website "Plecostomus, pleco, or plec is a general name for a type of freshwater tropical Central and South American fish belonging to the family Loricariidae." The loricarids (also called suckermouth catfish) are generally elongate with a body covered in plates (except the belly), giving them an armoured appearance. There are over 600 species and a number are relatively common in aquariums; eg. common and redspot plecos, common bristlenose, whiptails, etc. The name may have originated from the common Plecostomus's scientifc name of Hypostomus plecostomus. There are a number of genera (the first part of the scientific name) in the family including Hypostomus (common pleco is a species in this genus), Glyptoperichthys (redspot is one of these), Ancistrus (bristlenose), Panaques (royal plec and flash plec), etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 yeah.. what Flatfish said. Pleco is a generic name for the Loricariidae family of catfish.. there are hundreds of them. The Panaques are a sub family of the Loricariidae. So all Panaques are 'plecos', but not all plecos are panaques... OK ? Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 sort of makes sense now ,cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatfish Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 sort of makes sense now ,cheers Yeah Ian explained it better. There are 100s of species of plecs (or suckermouth catfish or Loracarids), of which Panaques are one sort, and there are a number of different species/types of Panaques. So as Ian said all Panaques are plecs but not all plecs are Panaques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snookie Posted May 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 what is the visual ,obvious difference , in the species ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianab Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 hard to tell.... If you have a few days to spare... http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/family.php?family_id=4 That lists 696 species of Loricarids... about 30 or so in the middle of the list are Panaques. It has pictures of most of the species, common names and general info Cheers Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Yeah as above. Panaques sre also woodeaters and will get big. their teeth srround their mouth, 4 lines that dont quite join to form a diamond shape . Real wide head and generally a high crown. My L191(Royal) is still growing at 16cm, have also seen L090(papas) around but would love to know if anyone has L027 Xingu here. L204(flash), L104(clown), and L226( changae) are also labelled here as panaques as they are woodeaters, but they are actually Panagolus or 'mini panaque" yet another Pleco genus. Maybe sometimes its just easier to call them plecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hey firenzenz do you have an L027? Yeah just call them all plecs and you cant go wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firenzenz Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Hey Ilah No unfortunately, waiting for the day that I wander in a LFS and see one waiting for me. Should be no reason why they can't be here, except for the eventual price tag I guess. I have the L191 Royal which I love, like half a watermelon sitting on the bottom of the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilah Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Yeah they are nice fish, dont think i could ever part with mine, sure there must be some around though, still hoping theres a male L102 somewhere haha i can hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 L204(flash), L104(clown), and L226( changae) are also labelled here as panaques as they are woodeaters, but they are actually Panagolus or 'mini panaque" yet another Pleco genus. nope, the name panagolus was introduced and veto within 12 months which is a shame cuz i really liked the idea of having a separate category for dwarf panaques. Panaqolus was just a name to separate the size different sort of a sub family not an different genus, either way the term is no longer accepted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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