SpidersWeb Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 We had a pair of these in with all my baby fish in the planted tank until I found them eating all my pearl danios. Popped them in a Jebo R338 38L tank at 30C and left them alone. Last night we found this: Not many, we've seen about 10-20, but cool none-the-less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishboi Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 thats fantastic spider. first spawn for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 At home it is, they had laid eggs in the store which is why we got them. TimTam got the other pair, wonder if she had the same luck? I've had these two for about 2-3 weeks now. I had noticed the female had turned yellow but that was about it, then viola mini apistos. Dad isn't allowed near them, and he doesn't really have an interest, just off doing his thing. The fry mostly hover under the female, except for some which she moves using her mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Watch the female Spider, that she doesn't kill the male. They are a bit like that if the tank is too small or the male hasn't got refuges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afrikan Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Awesome stuff SpidersWeb, wot cute little dots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caserole Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Congrat's Spidersweb on the spawning. Alan's right with the warning, my adult male is always missing large bits of his caudel fin after a spawning if he doesn't get back on his side of the tank PRONTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billaney Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Awesome mate , well Done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 my girl has been trying to coax the male into the pot that shes been garding for the last two weeks but i think have too many fish in the tank so i think they won't be sucessful till i move some out. My girl is very yellow but the boy seems more interested in showing off lol......great pic by the way!!! I might go and move some fishies now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Congrats Jono! :bounce: :bounce: Those babies look so cute. By the way, the two pearl danios that snuck in with the platys are still doin' fine - have doubled in size already! Microworms are so good for fry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 haha what a dope yup i have fry too, i just found them when i was doing a water change and when i picked up the pot they have been garding i found them so i guess they get eaten now duhhhhhhhhh :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 By the way, the two pearl danios that snuck in with the platys are still doin' fine - have doubled in size already! Microworms are so good for fry haha awesome, if you want any more just bring a bag I used the worm culture you gave us to seed 3 new ones, and they're all going crazy with worm production My fish get worms for breakie and BBS for dinner now. Microworms are awesome. TimTam - aww well at least you know they're fry making machines too 8) Mine are ready to go again, well the male is :lol: Thanks everyone for the kind comments, they're growing very quick and I'd say there is about 20 swimming around now. The female is spending more time avoiding randy andy here than looking after them now, so I'm going to move the parents out. She still picks them up, spins them round, and spits them out, but that just makes me nervous, I have trust issues when it comes to cichlids :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Never move your apisto fry in to a tank with a sand substrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxglove Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 :roll: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 hi found mine have laid eggs now too in my comm tank wot should i do to save them should i move them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 leave them. Move the parents after the fry have grown up or been eaten then start again....thats what i would do anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTam22 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Never move your apisto fry in to a tank with a sand substrate. why? mine are in a tank with sand substrate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 bugga ill have to move the parents all the eggs have been eatin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 why? mine are in a tank with sand substrate Not so bad now, but when I first moved them they didn't have enough black on them yet and I couldn't see them. They'd sit dead still in the sand and were the same colour as the sand. 12 hours after I'd moved them I was still panicing I'd killed them all because I couldn't see more than 1, but they're just good at camoflauge. You can easily count more than 10 now, I moved ~20 over, and left 2 with the parents. Their new tank can be stocked with heaps of live food without the parents interfereing now, and is filtered with a matured sponge and ramshorn snails. They bred in a Jebo R338 which is a 38L tank with a 400L/hr pump on it, absolutely stupid design, way too much current. New tank is about 20 litres, but much more reasonable water flow! Fed them tonnes of microworms today, but baby brineshrimp is on the menu for lunch and dinner (got two hatcheries going). I'm using that NZ Brine Shrimp, BEST BRINE SHRIMP EVER btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidersWeb Posted March 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 bugga ill have to move the parents all the eggs have been eatin I really should write up a guide to hatching cichlid eggs since it gets asked quite often. I prefer moving the eggs because then the fry hatch safely in to a small tank, which makes feeding easier. This is the basic process: Acquire small tank ~10-20 litres. Syphon some tank water from the parent tank in to a bucket and transfer it to the new small tank. Install a heater and make sure you get the temps the same, use a single thermometer (I use an AquaOne digital, cost me 12 bucks, but anything you can move will be fine like those glass ones) Move eggs, put them in a position you can see them because watching them hatch is half the fun. Dont keep them out of the water too long, use an intermediate bucket if you need to. Position an air stone nearby (few cm) to generate current but making sure the eggs dont actually get hit by the air bubbles. This will keep them clean. Dead eggs will turn white. Its natural to have a few of these and the parents would normally remove them, they aren't a problem unless they begin to fungus, in which case using Meth Blue is a good idea. Also fungii likes light, so keep the tank dark. Its normally recommended to use meth blue anyway, however I hate the fact it stains EVERYTHING, my severum breeding rock or kribensis log will never be the same After a few days they turn to wriggles and just look like eggs with tails having a spaz all over the place. Then they turn in to fish with egg sacks hanging off. Then they turn into fish who need something to eat. Microworms and Baby Brine Shrimp seem to be a very good combination. BBS are best but are a pain in the bum and sometimes I can't be bothered, which is where having a microworm culture is handy Hope that helps for next time 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcoleman Posted March 20, 2007 Report Share Posted March 20, 2007 hi thank u ive got 6 300x24ox24o tanks i use for all my fry so ill put the eggs in an empty one next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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