Interfecus Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 The first of my 5 tadpoles just emerged from the water this morning. So far I've had no deaths and all of the rest of the tadpoles are about to transform within a week or so. Does anybody know of any foods that a one centimetre long frog can catch and eat? I think that fruitflies might be too quick because it is still rather lethargic and has part of a tail left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Take the wings of the fruit flies Interfecus Turn them into hops and walks Na Just joking. But !! You can get the wingless f/f tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman98 Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 i've had them before and they normally catch a fruit fly or two just get heaps and leave him to it he should get some we've just feed them the ff since they've come up on land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Wander around your yard and see if you can find some aphids too. That's what mine have been eating for the last two weeks while I wait impatiently for Biosuppliers to send my wingless fruitflies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 I have a few wingless fruitflies at my normal house but these frogs are at my dad's house. I'll try to find some aphids. The frog is in a large, well planted terrarium (80L) so I need something that is easily found and doesn't move much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Aphids don't move too much. And them moving a bit and being hard to find would be kind of a good thing, I'd think. Give him something interesting to search for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Thanks for the idea . Would it eat whiteworms, because I have some of those at home and could make a trip to get them as well as the flies. I didn't bring these originally because I didn't expect it to absorb its tail so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Also, if anybody has and ideas for a name for this frog, please post it. Names can be of either gender, or it would be even better if a name could be suggested that works for either a male or a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Ira, how many frogs do you have? What proportion of tadpoles (in this group) survived to change? What sort of tank are you keeping them in? I'm quite interested in how others have arranged it. People say that the tadpoles prefer clouded water is better for the frogs but I kept the bowl well cleaned and so far have had 100% survival. Has anybody else had any experience with this? I would like to know whether this theory is always true, only true for some species, or a complete myth. I've posed quite a few questions here, so please make it clear which one you're answering. Thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Actually, I've decided that they'll be too hard to tell apart to give names to at this stage. When they're larger I might find some distinctive markings but I can't name them at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 I bought 5 and 4 survived so far. They've been frogs for about 3 weeks. The one tadpole I lost wasn't long after I got them, so I'd say it was more of an acclimation problem than how I took care of them, just using water from my pond. They're in one of those little bluish generic pet containers you get at the pet stores along with a small birdsnest fern, some generic fern type and a bowl of water. It's smaller than I'd like, but I'll need to find them something bigger. I tried whiteworms on my guys, they didn't seem interested and the whiteworms just crawled out of the container and have taken up residence under the moss. Kinda interesting watching the whiteworms crawl out of a container, they kinda group together, a bunch of them forming kind of a superwhiteworm that looks around and crawls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Ah, my wingless fruit flies showed up YESTERDAY and were in the mailbox, but I forgot to check the mail. It's all larvae, have to wait a bit to set up some new cultures, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Its quite surprising how quickly they transform. A couple of days ago the front legs came out, this morning it climbed out, and in the space of the rest of the day it has lost most of the tail. Whereas the tail was about the length of the body when it emerged this morning, the tail is now just the length of a front leg. The froglet has already started climbing the plants, even trying to climb a nearly vertical miniature flax, although it failed on that attempt. I've tried putting some whiteworms in the lid of a film canister as food, and I've seen a small caterpillar and a tiny moth among the plants. I've also got the wingless fruitflies for later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 I collected about a million aphids for my guys. They really love them. Stuffed themselves silly and now they're piled on top of each other on top of a leaf right under the light. Too bad I don't have a digital camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 How long does it take them to learn to hunt well? Mine just missed a fruit fly twice when the fly was sitting right in front of it. It has been watching the flies but has barely attempted to chase them, just waiting for them to come really close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 He's practically a new born, give him a little time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 9, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 I can't work out from watching him whether he likes or dislikes being misted each day. He reacts by pointing his head towards the source and opening his mouth, but also makes an agitated-looking movement with one of his front legs. I've observed this several times over the last few days. How do yours react to being sprayed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 They sometimes jump around at first, I guess because it startles them, but after that don't seem to pay much attention to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 The second emerged while I was absent yesterday. Apparently it appeared very pale, probably due to oxygen starvation because it emerged before the lungs were complete. It has a normal colour now and is much larger than the first one. I'll have to wait to see whether the new one is abnormally large or whether the first is just very small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Nah, I doubt it being pale was due to lack of oxygen. I think they might change color a bit with their mood or surroundings, not sure. But I had 3 that were dark when they first climbed out of the water(Well, when I first saw them out) and one that was pale. But anyway, I think their lungs are fairly well developed long before they come out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 They can change colour, but this one was described to me over the phone as being a pale greenish colour, and the frogs only normally change between darker and lighter browns. I've uploaded some pictures of the frogs now to my frog journal at http://www.livejournal.com/~interfecus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Colors are extremely variable depending on the ummm...Beholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interfecus Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 You're probably right. It was probably just a sign of high stress. The frogs are being kept at my dad's house, and I've been popping over every two days to clean the water. Somebody here added cucumber while I was away but forgot to remove the seeds from the centre of the slices first. The entire centre disintegrated in the water and made it really foul. He emerged from this slime and clung to the side of the bowl, probably very stressed because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.L Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Damn, your setup almost makes me want to set a frog tank up .. or a pond .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 I'd just like to mention that fruit flies(To feed the frogs) even though they're wingless are a massive pain in the butt! I just seperated mine into 7 new cultures and fed my frogs with some. They just go all over the place! And they hop! That's something I hadn't considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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