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Would beg to differ - the americans have been using diatom filters in their tanks for years and they are often advertised for sale in the US fish magazines.

Just wondered who (if any) is running a fish only system ?? I have decided to go this route for now whilst i am studying (and hence dont have the extra spare cash i would spend on all the additional requirements of a reef tank). Cheers folk.

This actually is an interesting aspect of the scenario. For all intents and purposes the fish in question could be expected to behave in a certain way and it simply did not. In the same way that for all intents and purposes a 2kW jug might be expected to boil 1litre of water from 10 to 100 degrees in a fixed amount of time but it only works 80% efficient. Both are cases where an item could be considered faulty. A very GREY area indeed but interesting from a legal point. Far more importantly though, if i were a store owner who had received thousands of dollars from a persons' custom over a few years, and upon whose generosity for help i had imposed, the very LEAST i would expect to do would be to offer a store credit (especially given that there would have been profit in the initial purchase in any case). A little common sense to retain the continued support of a valued customer - damn right JoeBloggs, it is the least the LFS could have done. Sure a store may say "no returns", but this must be across the board and with enough flexibility that common sense can take a part in the equation. It sounds like the "newbie" was being drawn in with the offer of bringing something back but the store felt that you were already hooked so they could ignore passing on a favour !!! Every right to feel service is poor ! Its a shame that one member of staff (the OWNER apparently in this case - which makes it even worse) diminishes the efforts made by others.

Didnt realise they were that cheap nowadays - will look into it then. Cheers

Thanks for the suggestions. I am aware of wireless but dont want to spend the money for the base station and card for my lappy ! Think will give up on this one as a lost cause. Cheers

aha - understood the first part - not sure on the "ira is people too" ?? sorry brian. did u sell that fluval in the end by the way ?

ahem !!! whose gavin, whats february and how does that help me download threads ? lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I would be interested to know where this was as the postage is INCREDIBLY reasonable.

Hi - sorry if this is the wrong forum, but for me it relates mainly to this one. Is there a way of downloading an entire thread without looking at each page (defeats the object) ? I want to be able to read some of the longer threads in comfort on the laptop rather than at my desk. Anyone's help would be most welcome. (Incidentally, Im one of those mad buggers using Apple, but i can handle that - it never craps out on me !)

Just a thought - if it doesn't hold PO4 does that mean its not porous and therefore not very good at filtration either ? Is there any more info linked to that pic which might address this question ?

Anthony - Pies is right, in NZ acrylic is more pricey (quelle surprise !). It looks good though and i am seriously considering it for mine (when i get back from Europe). Ultimately though, you are better off saving money there and spending it on something that makes a difference. Another alternative is one of those plastic storage boxes (they go quite large) that you get at bunnings. I bought two large ones on special for $15 each. Now i dont use them for storage i may even use them for my sump - initially at least until the extra money is free the sump of my choice.

Yeah, well i wont go down the line of how much stuff is all over the world - i guess you have to remember there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of reefkeepers in the states and the uk so the prices can be much cheaper. vicious circle though - if the stock was cheaper there would be more demand which would perpetuate an upward spiral in new hobbyists and increasing demand. just need the spark to start the fire.... at the end of the day if its a choice between cheap fish or a wonderful country to live in i would choose NZ over the UK anyday though.

Lol - Im not sure a lionfish would travel well in a suitcase. I will bring back some LFS pics to make you jealous of the range available if you like though - trouble is it would aggravate me too ! (Like yellow tangs for $60).

Hey guys - thanks for remembering me (i think). Im still "in the hobby" as far as its one of my keen interests but i have, as layton said, been busy. Work and general stuff has precluded me from getting on and setting up my tank yet. I got almost to the stage of adding stock to a nano tank but have just made arrangements to go back to the UK for a couple of months until after Christmas. Then I will be back in NZ and off to Polytech (can you believe that ! must be mad). I do have plans for a tank when i am back. I will post these once i have finalised them and got the project underway. One good thing is that i already have a reasonable collection of rock to add when i do finally start. Keep up the good work everyone - i will try to look in more regularly. Meanwhile i will continue to enjoy the hobby through the vicarious enjoyment of my mates tanks here in CHCH. :oops: :oops:

Yeah - i sort of thought that even as i was writing the question. And after i had posted it i was thinking to myself that it would be better to dose separately for greater control. Who knows - i may even get a tank big enough to need to worry about such things sometime too lol.

Would the manufacturers not have worked out the correct formula so that everyything was in proportion though ?

reef - thats awesome mate ! what are you feeding them on ?

Thanks for the hospitality. The tank has come on great for such a short time. Its similar to the look im aiming for with mine when i can finally afford it (!). The next project sounds scary.... Hope to see you both back up in chch next time. Cheers

Morays - beautiful !

thanks for the replies all. think i will stick to a lawnmower aye !

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Chim I'll buy em both if your tank comes free..... p l e a s e ????

Anyway guys. Thanks for all your supportive comments. This thread only started as i was trying to do the purchaser a favour and try to contact him. And i dont want to waste space on this website with any kind of character assassination. So lets leave things at that now. Happy Fishkeeping all. Cheers

Snowman - what a super sleuth you are. I wonder if you are right. Perhaps he is feeling guilty !

It seems somewhere along the line he is lying then because thats not the figure he told me !!